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Bung 2
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Bung 2 asked in Cars & TransportationRail · 1 decade ago

Semi-submerged Southern Pacific 4-6-0 steam locomotive number 2460?

I have a photograph of a semi-submerged Southern Pacific 4-6-0 steam locomotive number 2460. I think it may be a class SP8.

It was taken either at Benicia CA or Contra Costa CA some time before the railroad bridge across the Carquinez Narrows was opened for service. The loco had been driven off the end of the linkspan by mistake when neither the 'Solano' or the 'Contra Costa' Central Pacific train ferries were berthed to receive trains. I've heard it said that loco engineers who by some means or other managed to end up with their loco in the sea earned the nickname "Admiral" for the rest of their working lives.

My question is does anyone know when this event occurred ? If anyone can supply the date or better still the dates and titles of any newspapers which reported the incident I would be greatly obliged

Update:

SH, I am definitely right about the number and it certainly looks like a 4-6-0. Timewise it is difficult. The Solano operated from 1879 until 1930. The loco is too modern to date back to 1879 so the timeline will be between the introduction of the loco and 1930.

I once posted the photo on the shipnostalgia forum under my identity on that forum of 'Three-oh', (Merchant Navy slang for a Third Engineer). It is possible to view the images in the gallery without joining shipnostalgia.

Update 2:

The photo of no. 2460 is in the Ships Nostalgia Gallery, Maritime Casualties & Breaking Yards section on page 4.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    This one I've not heard of. I know of 4 SD-9s that went into the drink near there, and an engine that went through the back wall of the roundhouse in Dunsmuir, Ca., and wound up in the Sacramento River. The hostler hydro-ed it. I saw an SD-45 submarine in the Shasta River, too. Submerged at night, the red mars light at work under the running water was actually a very pleasing sight... almost artistic.

    Company officers disagreed.

    But, but your question pertains to the neck of the woods that both Andy and his dad worked, so he'll probably be of more help when he comes along soon.

    Edit:

    You've got me curious so I'm looking for some info. For one thing, SP / T&NO never had a class of ten wheeler's numbered in a 2400 series. So, either the number is wrong or the loco is actually a Southern Pacific built, SP class P-3 Pacific. Of this class (ten locos), all were built by Baldwin except for the 2459 and 2460. It makes sense as they saw a lot of passenger service in the bay area, especially the commutes, and ferry boats abounded.

    Any way you can estimate the year?

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