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Gamma asked in Science & MathematicsPhysics · 1 decade ago

Is there something about gravity which supports the idea of spontaneous creation?

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing."?

I recently read this quote from Stephen Hawking. I realize we are talking about fringe science here and that this is all very hypothetical, but it seems to me that he is implying that because gravity exists as a force, this lends support to (not proves) the idea of spontaneous creation. I know Hawking's view on a creator, but this statement does not necessarily have to disclude a God. However, without getting into the debate of the existence of a supreme being, could anyone explain what it is about gravity in particular that would suggest this. Sources if you can please.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    The Grand Design (Hawking) just claims that, once we are able to solve the equations we already have, we need not invoke a divine intelligence to explain the creation of our own universe. Gravity plays an important role in that creation, but its not the only thing. So we can say that gravity is a necessary but not sufficient property for the spontaneous creation of the universe as we know it.

    And in the beginning....[See source.]

    There was mother universe [my term] that is eternal and infinite. She is a high entropy universe, which means chaotic, filled with huge quanta, which, like all quanta, have quantum jitters. This simply means they are best described by probability as they are non-deterministic in nature. As they are probabilistic, their time and energy are uncertain and spontaneous.

    Over eternity a section of one quantum in mother universe spontaneously jittered to lay an egg of low entropy space-time. Converting a high entropy entity into a low entropy one is a very very very rare event, but possible, especially when there is an eternity to do it in. And that egg of low entropy, high energy space-time is what inflationary big bang theorists call the big bang. But not everything was settled at that instant.

    Between 10^-35 and 10^-31 seconds after mother universe laid that egg, a Higgs like electro weak field finally settled in to zero potential. But in doing that, it created so much pressure on space itself that space expanded faster than light somewhere between 10^30 to 10^100 fold, depending on how fast one assumes the field fell to zero. And why did space expand at such a rate... negative gravity. [There is the first instance of gravity in the spontaneous, quantum event we call creation.]

    Yep, negative gravity is possible according to the general theory of relativity. All that pressure on space itself when the field collapsed (spontaneously because of quantum jitters) caused the negative gravity field that forced the spatial expansion. So negative gravity had a major role to play within the first instances of the big bang when it expanded. Normal, positive gravity for comparison is caused when space contracts. But, wait, there's more.

    As the neo nascent universe we call home started to cool down from its billions of degrees, things sort of gelled out of the uniform low entropy energy the baby universe was made of back then. Among these were fermions called quarks, neutrinos, and electrons. These all have rest mass. And as Newton and his g = GM/r^2 have told us over and over in HS physics, where there's mass, there is.... gravity. The normal kind this time.

    So these quarks and electrons got together to form the atoms of light elements because they were attracted to each other. Gravity was part of that attraction, but so was electro-static attraction from the new electro-magnetic particles that also popped out; we call them photons. But EM attraction only goes so far.

    As the elements of H, He, and Li began to thicken in deep space, they formed clouds of dust. And, again, gravity pitched in to clump all that fine dust into clods and chunks of matter... really very highly condensed clouds for the most part. And under the pressure caused by the gravity pulling all that space debris together, the larger chunks ignited with the process we call nuclear fusion, where the lighter elements fuse into heavier ones and give off lots of heat and light.

    And, voila, gravity was paramount in forming the first generation stars and consequent galaxies. These soon collapsed and exploded as supernovae filled with both light and heavy elements. And the next generation of stars was formed when gravity, again, brought all that space debris back together to ignite. The stars we now see each night are these second generation stars filled with heavier elements.

    Source(s): "The Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Greene. This is easy, entertaining reading on the creation of the universe and how it set the arrow of time.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Cycling Theory is dependent on gravity.

    The Cycling Theory states that the universe "recycles itself."

    1. There is "an expanding universe" (the current state of our universe.)

    2. Eventually the gravitational forces of the universe cause it to stop expanding and start contracting (with all of the "dark matter" that they are discovering in the universe, this becomes a probability.)

    3. The universe will contract until it reaches a point of "Unity" aka: "The Big Crunch."

    4. The Big Crunch Causes a Big Bang.

    5. A universe is created out of the Big Bang.

    6. Go to #1.

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  • 1 decade ago

    My aim is create mans from monkeys. But I am not pure atheist.

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