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jigokusabre asked in SportsBaseball · 10 years ago

If you could put one person into the Hall of Fame, who would it be?

If you could put one person who is eligible (or no longer eligible because they came off the ballot) into the Hall of Fame, who would you choose?

BQ: If you could take one Hall of Famer out, who?

Update:

Players have to be retired for 5 years before they're eligible.

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  • 10 years ago
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    Allowing for the others choices (Ron Santo would be # 1 for me), I'll say Tommy John. A surgery is named after him that was experimental when he had it. His bravery kept a lot of guys pitching who'd otherwise have been little knowns. And get this, if he didn't lose a year and a half to that surgery, he EASILY would have won 300 games.

  • 10 years ago

    Usher in: Ron Santo. I've long held his torch aloft and I'm not going to back down now. Second would be Marvin Miller.

    Toss out: not something I'm prone to doing, but I consider Bowie Kuhn to be the least worthy member, ever. Kuhn in and Miller not is worse than a joke; it is an affront, a travesty, a hypocrisy of the first order. I could stand to see Kuhn's plaque sent off to the smelter.

    Pete Rose made more outs than any other player in major league history. I'm not at all sure that this is the sort of thing the Hall should seek to honor, outs being bad and all.

    This, of course, is a facetious statement. Rose's playing career is certainly Hall-worthy, and his exclusion is based upon special damning circumstances brought about by his own actions. Fans who think that piling on the positive evidence in Rose's favor will make a difference -- it will not, sorry, but thanks for playing -- are very tiresome, for three reasons. One, we know what his career was like, what his happy numbers were and still are, so this is just repetition. Two, so often it amounts to little more than a cut-n-paste from Baseball Reference.com, with no personal interpretation or glossing, which renders it dry, dull, dreary stuff. Three, while any honors are nice things, citing third-tier awards (like, oh, the Hutch, Gehrig, or Clemente awards) is pointless when nearly every reader and, worse, most likely the writer, does not know in recognition of what contributions such awards are bestowed. I realize that repetition and cut-n-paste is the easy path, but it is also nigh-worthless and tells us nothing we did not know.

    Of course, the pro-Rose campaign is also nigh-worthless, so I suppose it amounts to a good fit.

  • 10 years ago

    Shoeless Joe Jackson would be put in the Hall of Fame by me and I'm sure a lot of other people agree that he should be there. Nothing was ever proven that he threw the 1919 World Series. He had great stats in the Series with a .375 BA in 8 games. They do say he never took the money and we can't prove he did or didn't.

    The reason he belongs in the Hall of Fame though is solely because of his career overall.

    .356 career Batting Average

    4 seasons with at least 200 hits

    Hit .408 in 1911 with CLE

    Averaged over 37 Doubles a season

    Led the AL in triples 3 times

    Averaged 20 triples a Season

    He definitely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

    BQ: If I could take out a Hall of Famer, I'd actually take out several Hall of Famers.

    Chick Hafey. Wasn't anything spectacular. Never played a complete season in the Majors. Only had 5 good seasons out of only 7 complete or almost complete seasons. Only hit 20+ Homers 3 times during an era where homers were being hit by Babe Ruth. Never lead the league really in anything except:

    1931 with a .349 BA

    1927 with a .590 SLG%

    He didn't hit too many RBIs, or score a lot of runs. Sure, he hit .317 in his career but never played complete seasons. If he had played 13 seasons completely and had a .317 BA that'd be a different story.

    Jesse Haines. This is an easy one. Never considered a great pitcher. Mediocre mostly over his career. Only had really 3 good seasons over a 19 year career. His best season was 1927 where he was:

    24-10 with a 2.72 ERA along with 25 complete games and 6 shutouts with an unspectacular 89 strikeouts.

    He only led in 3 categories:

    1920 with 47 Games

    1921 with 3 shutouts

    1927 with 25 complete games and 6 shutouts

    He never led in Wins, ERA, or strikeouts. The major categories. He also finished with a mediocre 3.64 ERA. He doesn't deserve to be there.

    Harry Hooper. Only led 2 categories 1 season in:

    1910 with 688 PA and 34 SH

    That's all he led. Only hit .300 or more 5 seasons out of 16 complete seasons. Hit only .281 for an outfielder at the time where Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb were hitting .370 to .400

    Never really did anything spectacular, Averaged only 27 Doubles per season, 57 RBIs per season, only 3,400 bases over his 17 year career. I don't find anything good about him at all.

  • 10 years ago

    Thurman Munson. His career was cut short due to a tragic plane crash, but he was outstanding nonetheless. He won Rookie of the Year, an MVP, two World Series, three gold gloves, and was a seven time all-star in ten seasons. And he was the first Yankee captain since Lou Gehrig. And he played a big part in their 1977 and 1978 World Series victories. In the '77 series he hit .320 with a homer and three RBIs. And in the ALCS next year, in the bottom of the eighth of game three when the Yankees were trailing 5-4, he hit the longest home run of his career, 475-feet, to give the Yankees a 6-5 win over the Royals. They then won the pennant the next day. He had a .292 career average, 1,558 hits, and 701 RBI. These weren't the best numbers, but he came through when it counted and was a very important part of the Yankees franchise.

    BQ: Kenesaw Landis.

  • 10 years ago

    Darrell Evans.

    Why? I actually believe there are MORE WORTHY candidates (like Ron Santo, Jim Kaat, Barry Larkin), but THEY have support. Darrell Evans probably would never get elected if I didn't specially select him. Which is a shame, as he certainly deserves election.

    BQ: Tommy McCarthy.

    Why? Let's put it this way- On Baseball-Reference.com, there is a list of all-time players based on where users of the website believe players should be ranked.

    McCarthy is currently No. 710.

    He has 1493 career hits. His career WAR (Wins Above Replacement) is a terrible 19.

    This man should not be in the Hall of Fame, at least not as a player.

    He did invent some things (the hit-and-run, signals), but there's a category for people like that- Pioneers.

    Al Spalding was a TREMENDOUS player, and he's only inducted as a Pioneer. McCarthy should not be in the Hall as a player.

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  • Anonymous
    10 years ago

    There are plenty of deserving candidates mentioned above (Ron Santo, Edgar Martinez, Tommy John etc.). I think it would be hard to pick one over the others. I'm fine with leaving Pete Rose out of the Hall. The guy is an a - hole, so I'm not going to waste my breath arguing for his admission (though if he were allowed in, I wouldn't cry about that, either).

    As a lifelong Twins fan, I'd probably use my vote on Tony Oliva, though. Oliva won 3 batting titles, went to 8 All Star games, led the league in hits 5 times and doubles 4 times. He was slowed badly by a knee injury late in his career, but he still achieved a Hall of Fame Monitor score of 112 (over 100 indicates a likey HOFer), according to Baseball Reference. I'm not going to passionately argue Oliva's case, because I can see both sides of the issue. But if I could choose one player, that's who I'd pick.

    If I had to kick someone out, I might agree with the person who said Kennesaw Mountain Landis. He is credited with saving baseball, but he was also an extreme bigot. But if you kick Landis out, you would probably have to kick out Cap Anson, too. He was the highest-profile supporter of segregation in baseball in the late 1800s.

  • Ben
    Lv 6
    10 years ago

    Here come the thumbs downs.

    Pete Rose. The guy didn't throw a game. I agree he should never be allowed to manage or be a part of the game in anyway, but that doesn't have to go along with the hall of fame. I'll admit he's a jerk, but if we're keeping people out for being a holes, the hall of fame would be a lot smaller. Ty Cobb was a terrible person and often placed bets on how well he would do in games. Do we want to kick Ty Cobb out of the HOF as well?

    You can't argue with his numbers.

  • 10 years ago

    Put in: Well, my first choice was Shoeless Joe Jackson, but people have him covered so I'll go for originality. I think I would put in Ray Chapman. His stats aren't Hall worthy, but he was a decent player. Career .278 hitter with 238 steals in 9 seasons including 52 steals in 1917, but his career was cut short in it's prime. Being the only player ever to be killed in an MLB game, I think he should be honored in the Hall of Fame for his sacrifice

    Take out: Can I save mine just in case Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, or another steroid cheater ever gets elected?

  • 10 years ago

    No one else is going to say him and I'm going to get thumbs down but the only guy eligible for the Hall and not in that I would vote for is Albert Belle.

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