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"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" Agree?
The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was the first treaty concluded between the United States of America and Tripoli, signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796 and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.
The treaty was a routine diplomatic agreement but has gained attention because the English version included a clause about religion in America:
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
If you don't you're a Socialist, marxist, corporatist, atheist muslim who hates America.
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- Anonymous10 years agoFavorite Answer
Some of the Founding Fathers disagree with your argument.
John Adams and John Hancock:
We recognize no sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
“[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798
"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen." December 25, 1813 letter to Thomas Jefferson
"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |
“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]
“ Let divines and philosophers, statesmen and patriots, unite their endeavors to renovate the age by impressing the minds of men with the importance of educating their little boys and girls, inculcating in the minds of youth the fear and love of the Deity… and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.” [October 4, 1790]
John Quincy Adams:
• “Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day [the Fourth of July]?" “Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity"?
--1837, at the age of 69, when he delivered a Fourth of July speech at Newburyport, Massachusetts.
“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.” John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61
Source(s): The Founding Fathers (and also JQ Adams) had as much to say in favor of the U.S. being a Christian (Protestant) nation as they did in favor of the U.S. being a secular nation. - RomeoLv 710 years ago
The laws in the USA are based upon biblical principles and do give reverence to the Christian God, but the state does not promote any religion or force a religion on any citizen. No Federal law requires a citizen to be a member of any church or to attend any church and no state law establishes any church or recognizes any creed or any uniform church standard. People are free to be a member of a church that they choose or to not be a member of any church. In some countries, this is not a choice.
The laws also do not recognize a politically active religious group as a religion that is tax exempt.
The law does protect the community against any religious cult that uses violence or force to control or to hurt people. People in a religion are not above the Federal law.
You might want to read this treatise by John Leland
"THE RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE INALIENABLE"
- SocratesLv 710 years ago
The 1st Amendment does not force religion on anyone. In that sense, it's not a Christian nation. However, the underlying fabric and moral compass came from Christian principles. Some of these principles are equal justice, equal opportunity, individualism, charity, individual salvation and divine providence. That's not to say this fabric was adhered to. Slavery was an obvious tear in it, which was eventually healed by a Christian revival.
Christian principles are also the core of what American freedoms are base on. The rights that are described in the Declaration of Independence and protected in the Constitution are natural rights. These are individual rights that are practiced by the individual. They do not require an outside enabler, like government, to make them work. They are defined as being given by God (i.e. "The Creator) to man. Being so, they cannot be taken away by government. This is in stark contrast to Collective (human) rights that other countries have. They obligate government to create, define and regulate rights. They give government an excuse to be Progressive and make itself the center of it's peoples' lives.
- ?Lv 510 years ago
Incorrect, it was founded on the Christian ideals of The Founders.
Out of the main Founders, Paine was the only non-believer/doubter, and I believe that was late in life.
Mr. Jefferson was Deist yet called himself a Christian. Mr. Franklin was also a Deist.
The rest were Christians, and devout.
"The adoption of the Constitution will demonstrate as visibly the finger of Providence as any possible event in the course of human affairs can ever designate it."- President George Washington.
I can quote more if you'd like.
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- Anonymous10 years ago
Disagree.
America is a Christian nation.
And anyone that that doesn't think America is a Christian nation, is a Marxist Kenyan Globalist Black Theologian Atheist Socialist Communist Nazi Muslim - and you hate America and you hate the troops.
- 10 years ago
The constitution does mention God and therefore since the religious right knows that the only true god is Jebus then they must have been speaking of him., he who must be obeyed as it were. Look on our currency, it says "In Jebus we trust". no?
- ☼Solar☼Lv 710 years ago
The cornerstone of the United States of America was founded on Christian-Judea values and rule of law; it has never been a Christian nation; as it would never have tolerated slavery; mass killings for land; and the derogatory treatment of non-white males. Scripture tells us; "How can you say you love God, whom you have not seen; and hate your neighbor whom you have seen". Or perhaps; "Love your neighbor, as yourself".
- 10 years ago
Agree 100%. Gotta love that First Amendment.
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- Red neckLv 710 years ago
The founders based everything on the Muslim religion and Sharia Law, and no freedom of religion. Right. It's all right there before your lieing eyes.
- ColbertNationLv 410 years ago
Several of the founding fathers were atheists
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." - Benjamin Franklin
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
" The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." - John Adams