Did climate change happen before man appeared on the earth?

Real science also provides a way to predict future events based on data. So far every prediction made by those that claim to understand the problem enough to suggest we spend trillions of dollars on mitigating actions seem to miss the prediction by a mile. This would indicate to sane ppl that there is not enough clarity around the issue to claim the conclusions thus far are correct.

"Models Don't Work

We can not trust unproven computer models

The Models Don't Have Clouds

If aerosols are blocking the sun, the south should warm faster

Observations Show Climate Sensitivity Is Not Very High"

They missed the one that says "the 2 times we already predicted the temps/levels we were wrong"

In the "Kyoto is Ineffective" section he pretty much confirms and concedes my point.

May I suggest also looking at the comments after the various sections, where the "Skeptics" thrash the hell out of the blogger.

collecting data from Mars and Venus would not be an effective control as their atmospheres are totally different than Earth's. At best you'd be measuring the solar cycles, not the changes to our atmosphere and it's influence on climate.

Yes, climate change before people. So did forest fires.

It does not prove CO2 is no longer a greenhouse gas.

we are already experimenting with the Earth- and we do not know the full consequences.

Don't be absurd. If an asteroid were hurdling toward the planet, would you claim that we don't know if it's going to hurt or not until we smash an asteroid into a different planet, or would you just scale up from known universal laws of physics?

You can't claim we already know that a massive asteroid strike would cause problems based on the KT extinction, because apparently the Permian-Triassic extinction, an increase in greenhouse gasses, leading to increased global temperatures which fried the megaflora isn't enough of a reason to believe that increased global temperatures are bad.

You are right the Carbon Dioxide emitted by our coal plants could in fact be magical and behave like some other chemical with regard to light refraction and heat retention. Nobody have ever really studied the possiblity of magical CO2. We need to experiment to make sure our coal emmisions are not magical. If magic is at work, then perhaps we don't need to reduce our emmissions and those liberals will finally drop their athiest ways.

Whats causing the entire solar system to warm? My guess is it may have something to do with that fireball in the sky. AGW is the new religion for the weak minded, the preachers like Al Gore tell us to sacrifice and live by his green commandments while he lives a life of over consumption with 5 mansion, private jets to go across the street, fat head that he can't stop feeding.... Then they tell us they can save us if we give them money.... They use fear to get people to follow......Sounds familiar.

And people want to believe it because they want to think that we can control the earth and the sun but we can't.

BTW the biggest energy companies support the AGW carbon taxes.

http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/10/...

No, it absolutely did not occur before us evil humans........all of Earth was a quite comfortable 72 degrees F until we came along and ruined everything.

Yes so we should do nothing about the damage we are doing the environment that increases desertification and speeding the process up?

Yes, because you blocked the sun

Now this really proves it - Now we can let the Billionaires pollute for as long as they can. Global Warming might be happening, but we'll just deny it.

Didn't you hear? Archeologists just just dug up remnants of Al Gore's original jet that ended the last ice age.