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ShortStuff asked in PetsHorses · 10 years ago

How do I properly wear a pair of english spurs?

Hokay, here is the deal, I just bought these spurs:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/m-toulouse-soft-touc...

I ride in paddock boots with half chaps, and my boots don't have a spur rest. Where is the best place to have the spur placed, what is the best way to keep them from slipping, and is there anything else I should know?

More unnecessary info on why I need spurs/help (read or don't, I don't really care):

I have been riding english for about 10 years now (I am 21), and I haven't worn spurs in about 7 years. I started out riding hunter/jumper, and almost every rider wore spurs - if you didn't have them you were a newbie and everyone looked down on you (stupid, I know). After a bad accident (four surgeries bad) three years into my riding career, I switched barns and disciplines to dressage, and learned a bunch of natural horsemanship. While riding does NOT come naturally to me (I have to work really hard to do it right), I found I am awesome at teaching naughty horses ground manners. The combination of those two disciplines taught me that I was using a spur for all the wrong reasons in all the wrong ways. Since then I have ridden mostly dressage and competitive trail, dabbling back into hunter jumper in the past two years, only because I think it is important to know how to safely ride a jumping horse, especially if you trail ride like I do (cross country, not many trails). Durring that whole time, I avoided spurs because I was afraid of misusing them again, and the level of riding I was doing didn't require them for subtlety of communication.

Fast forward to 8 months ago: my rather impressive collection of birth defects in my spine start acting up. I am essentially bed/wheelchair ridden for 6 months - I lose all my riding muscles. Now go to 2 months ago when I convince my doctors to let me start riding again (it is actually really good for my back), but only if it is through a hippotherapy program with a licensed physical therapists and a therapy horse. And now we are at today. I am up to being in the saddle for 30 minutes at a time, and my physical therapy sessions are now about 50% physical therapy, and 50% retraining my body how to actually ride. I basically have all the muscle memory, but none of the muscle.

Now about the horse I am riding: beautiful dappled palomino quarter horse, trained from the get go to be a therapy horse and not a riding horse. She is perfectly happy to have both physically and mentally handicapped people on her back, and she will walk out beautifully, ignoring essentially everything going on on her back (screaming, hitting, flopping, kicking, etc). If you put a competent rider on her back, with a gentle snaffle in her mouth, she knows how to turn, but not to bend, she knows how to stop, but not collect, and if she ever decides to listen to your leg, all cues mean go forward. I have fallen desperately in love with this little mare, and I have gotten permission to start trying to get a little bit of training into her. I will be doing ground/ wheelchair work with her (what I am really good at) and half of my riding sessions will be devoted to training/real riding. She is the perfect horse for me to start all over with.

Two problems: she is dead to the leg (since she was trained that way), and because of the combination of nerve damage and muscle atrophy, I don't have the leg strength to support her, and I may never redevelop it. My hands and arms have enough nerve damage to them that I can hold reins OR a dressage whip, but not both. However, because of the muscle memory thing, I have both quiet hands and legs (I am SO glad I learned that before I had this flare up, I would never be able to learn it now). Obvious solution: spurs.

I bought myself some really gentle spurs, dusted off my old spur straps and battled them onto my boots. My boots don't have spur rests, because when I bought them 3 years ago, I never expected to need them. I know you can use spurs on boots without spur rests, and you are supposed to put them at the seam between the heal and ankle, but I really don't see them staying there, no matter how tight I make the spur straps. My other boots are my tall boots - which I don't want to wear because they block too much of the remaining sensitivity in my legs, and my trail boots which are ariat terrain boots and do have a spur rest but not enough ankle support for arena work.

Anyways, I am going to ride in my new spurs for the first time this coming Tuesday, and I foresee a few problems: Will they slip, will I be able to apply them correctly, and even though I know that I won't hurt her (my leg is still and these are super gentle), how do I keep my confidence up while using them? I can see myself riding with my leg pulled off her side in order to make myself sure that I am not poking her, which is not helpful to either of us.

Thanks in advance,

Andi

Update:

I misused spurs in the past by using them for impulsion or punishment. I will never use them as such again. I use my heal as I would use a spur in general, but I just don't have the strength to get this horse to understand. I have not kicked a horse in 7 years.

The horse I am working with is very forward, and changes gaits through voice command, forward is not her problem, learning to give to pressure is.

While my leg is not strong, it is very still. What I need the spurs for is getting her to bend, step under with her hind end, and begin to understand lateral movement - starting with leg yields and turns on the forehand.

Update 2:

One other thing: I never expect a horse to be able to do something with me in the saddle that they can't do with me on the ground. I will not ask for lateral movement or disengagement until I have cleanly established it on the ground (she does a pretty good in-hand turn on the forehand at this point). I am going to be doing as much ground work as I can with this horse, keeping in mind that I spend most of my time in a wheelchair.

Update 3:

For anyone who is interested, here is a video of me riding my own pony about 4-5 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTg__4O8Qh4

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  • 10 years ago
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    You want your spurs to be fairly high they should be resting so that the sides are just above your ankle bones and the spur itself is well above your heel.

    If you look at the picture of these boots you can see how high the spur stop is.

    http://www.equestrianclearance.com/weatherbeeta/ai...

    I do not have spur stops on my hunting boots and fitted correctly and high, spurs do not slip.

    Good luck with your riding and health.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Riding Boots With Spurs

  • 6 years ago

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    How do I properly wear a pair of english spurs?

    Hokay, here is the deal, I just bought these spurs:

    http://www.smartpakequine.com/m-toulouse-soft-touc...

    I ride in paddock boots with half chaps, and my boots don't have a spur rest. Where is the best place to have the spur placed, what is the best way to keep them from...

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  • 10 years ago

    Sorry to hear about your physical problems and hope you recover.

    With your described problems, it does not sound like you have enough sensitivity or strength to control your legs to use spurs. So I share your concern that you will be able to apply them correctly. Also, since you did not mention how you misused spurs before, you did not state you know how to use them now. Spurs are meant to be used by extremely advanced riders and they are to be used to move your horse laterally, not for impulsion and you gave the impression you plan to use them for impulsion since this is a typical lesson horse with no forward motion. In either case, it would not be wise to use them. If you are able to do groundwork training with this horse, she will quickly lose her dullness as the natural horsemanship training will awaken her familiarity with her language when she has a rider that actually knows how to properly speak the language to her. I see that as the reason for a lot of dullness in horses, besides the obvious of course.

    Again, good luck to you with the horse and especially, your recovery.

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  • Driver
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    I'm answering your question without reading the novel of additional details you added. If you have a good reason to use spurs, adjust the spur straps so that they end up about where they'd be if your boots had spur rests. The spurs should be parallel to the bottom of your boots, but a couple of inches higher up. Buckle them on tight to minimize slipping.

  • 10 years ago

    well i was going to say spurs are for experienced riders

    you need proper leg control and knowledge of the horse

    but the kind you got aren't as bad i thought i saw rowels but nah

    yes they are going to slip. don't kick too hard or point your toes

    out when riding otherwise you're going to annoy the horse.

    just be gentle, try not to grip and apply little taps when your need

    the effects of spurs.

    some people who are nervous with spurs wound a small piece of

    vet wrap on the end of the spur to make it more of a "bump" than

    a jab.

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