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Anonymous asked in Science & MathematicsMathematics · 10 years ago

Need help with Stationary Points (Mathematics Differentiation)?

I got this question for homework:

Find the coordinates of the stationary points of the cure with equation y= ⅔x³ + x² -4x

Using differentiation determine their nature.

The answer at the back of the book is (-2,6/3) , max (1,-2⅓) , min

But I can't for the life of me get this answer, I am actually beginning to think that the back of the book is wrong... Could anyone help me out and tell me if it is possible to get these points and if it is how to do so?

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  • Ed I
    Lv 7
    10 years ago
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    y = (2/3)x^3 + x^2 - 4x

    dy/dx = y' = 2x^2 + 2x - 4 = 0

    2(x^2 + x - 2) = 0

    (x + 2)(x - 1) = 0

    x + 2 = 0 or x - 1 = 0

    x = -2.............x = 1

    y = 20/3.........y = -7/3

    d^y/dx^2 = y" = 4x + 2

    y"(-2) = -2 < 0

    y"(1) = 6 > 0

    (-2, 20/3) is a maximum; (1, -7/3) is a minimum.

    Your value of 6/3 or 2 is suspect.

  • 10 years ago

    Well, dy/dx is the gradient of a line, so the gradient of that line at any point would be dy/dx of that function.

    To find the derivative of a function you simply use a formula nx^n-1 = dy/dx of x^n,

    So you should apply this 3 . 2/3 . x^2 + 2 . x - 4

    Then : 2x^2 + 2x - 4 = dy/dx,

    At stationary points the gradient must equal 0, because there is no gradient at the stationary point, think about it, at a flat piece of land is the land rising or lowering, the answer is its not, so dy/dx at stationary points.

    so 0 = 2x^2 + 2x - 4, and you know how to factorize, (well you should)

    2(x^2 + x -2) (brought 2 outside)

    2((x+2)(x-1)) = 0

    So the only solutions for this are x = -2 and x = 1,

    To find the nature of these stationary points use the second derivative test, so you find the second derivative of the function, just like how you found the derivative of the first function,

    So: 2x + 2 = d^2y/dx^2

    And when the second derivative is NEGATIVE the stationary point is a MAXIMUM

    and vice versa.

    So you sub the numbers in; 2(-2) + 2 = -2, therefore it is a max, and 1(2) + 2 = 4, therefore it is a min.

    Now you just sub the numbers you obtained to get the y co-ordinate,

    2/3 (-2)^3 + (-2)^2 - 4(-2) = 6/3

    and

    2/3 + 1 - 4 = -7/3

    There you go!

    Source(s): Me :D
  • 10 years ago

    y= ⅔x³ + x² -4x

    dy/dx = 2x^2 + 2x - 4

    dy/dx = 0 at stat points

    so 2x^2 + 2x - 4 = 0 at stat points

    (2x - 2 )(x + 2) = 0 at stat points

    There is a stationary point at x = 1 and x = - 2

    When x = 1

    y = 2/3 + 1 -4

    y = -2 1/3

    When x = -2

    y = 20/3

    To determine their nature we find the second derivative

    d^2y/dx^2 = 4x + 2

    When x = 1

    d^2y/dx^2 = 6

    Gradient is increasing so this is a local minimum

    When x = -2

    d^2y/dx^2 = -6

    Gradient is decreasing so this is a local maximum

    Yeah looks like your book was wrong on the 6/3 unless I'm wrong of course, but that is impossible.

  • Como
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    f ` (x) = 2 x ² + 2x - 4 = 0 for turning points

    x ² + x - 2 = 0

    (x + 2)(x - 1) = 0

    x = - 2 , x = 1

    f(-2) = (2/3)(-8) + 4 + 8 = 12 - 16/3 = 20/3

    f(1) = 2/3 + 1 - 4 = -7/3

    f "(x) = 4x + 2

    f "(-2) = - 6

    Thus Minimum turning point at x = - 2

    f "(1) = 6

    Thus Maximum turning point at x = 1

    Turning points are:-

    (-2 , 20/3 )_____Minimum turning point

    ( 1 , - 7/3)_____Maximum turning point

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  • 10 years ago

    you differentiate to get 2x^2 +2x-4 and let that equal zero and solve getting (2x+4)(x-1)=0

    2x+4=0 or x-1=0

    2x= -4 x=1

    x= -2

    so x= -2 or 1 and when you put that back in you get y= 6 1/3 -2 1/3

    (i assume you meant to put 6 1/3)

    Source(s): degree in engineering
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