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At Last This Vile Government Is Getting Opposed Thanks To The Lords?
Due to some decent crossbenchers like Lord Patel and Labour and rebel Lib Dems the dreadful welfare reforms which could cause misery to the disabled was voted down. Liam Byrne shadow welfare minister has suddenly realised he is in opposition and rightly said that the tory reforms cross the line of British decency.A glimmer of hope but there is still the DLA reforms coming i am hopping the opposition will continue and this shower are flattened and exposed as vermin.
R T yes that does worry me i hope at last we get more media coverage and action to expose the truth and maybe some legal action on the grounds of disability rights . Patch we do need some cuts i am not disputing it but the genuine in need should not be the first targets the tax shirkers and the bailed out banks should be targeted and the top pay in the public services and unnecessary waste.
Raving Ricky yes i can see that possibility i believe only legal action in the end will make any difference there are acts which supposed to protect the disabled i am sure there breaking them it needs the experts to put together a case to bring to the high court and the European court of human rights to.
Back to the drawing board you are right many disabled and sick might be able to do some work but not be able to hold down regular paid work some conditions like ME are complex conditions good days and bad not fit for regular employment ATOS do not take this on board so we have sick people marked fit for work. The Daily Mail have been at the front of lying misleading attacks dodgy figures and hate but i am surprised that there is one decent columnist Sonia Poulton check her out on the Mail website on right minds a breath of fresh air.
Butch S everyone else gets it ok its not a direct question but do you agree with the statement and how ironic that the unelected chamber is the one that made a stand for the underdog.
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- 9 years agoFavorite Answer
Absolutely, I agree with you and it's interesting that the House of Lords as an 'unelected body' are routinely chucking out the Bills of the House of Commons produced as our 'elected body' seem hellbent on taking on disabled people as the first victims to transfer our Welfare State to an altogether more Americanised insurance based scheme based on ability to pay rather than need.
The Daily Mail for instance publishes stories like 'my next door neighbour claims DLA but plays football and mows his lawn', well, we all know that disabled people have good and bad days and being able to function a proportion of days does not mean that the bad days will, maybe one a week, not cancel out the viability of employing a disabled person maybe needing to take more days off than normal to the majority of employers.
In other words a lot of disabled people want to work but they experience too much discrimination on the part of employers, a government scheme to penalise disabled people for not having 'tried hard enough' to get jobs is fraught with unfairness in an already over-subscribed jobs market with high unemployment in all areas, if Cameron wants to get voted in at the next election he should really get himself into the real world and address these simple issues that are not rocket science.
- DATALv 59 years ago
The Government won't take any notice of what the Lords do or say - they just do what they want to anyway. These things will STILL go ahead - along with all the other things we keep hearing about Housing Benefit reforms & people having to move, leave their jobs because of, maybe even face the threat of homelessness etc, etc.... NONE of that bothered this government in the slightest.
Having said that some of these reforms were already started by LABOUR before they got kicked out. They started to bring in a new system for testing incapacity claimants & jobseekers, it's just as ever the tories are going much further & much deeper than they might otherwise would have done.
There will be a time when something along the lines of workhouses of sorts could be making a return to this country, as there will be just so many people with no homes, no food, no money, no jobs, that will be the only way to prevent the streets from filling up with them all. a family occupying & sleeping in one shop doorway for instance for shelter is not good for image. But it COULD well happen given enough time!!!
- Anonymous9 years ago
It does seem strange,the only Opposition to the Tories is an Unelected House of Lords.
Source(s): Bravo,Mi'Lords. - R T FischallLv 69 years ago
Next time anyone moans about our version of democracy in this country they should remember that without the upper house gawd knows what govt's would pass without being scrutinized. The bad news is that they might try to ramrod the paper through by using Lady T tactics at getting unpopular legislation through, guilotine tactics or something like that memories not what it was lately.
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- ?Lv 69 years ago
The problem being that the Labour Party are also promising cuts. So where do we go from here?
- 9 years ago
Lol so all those lefties who hate the house of Lords please take note, this is not the first time they have thrown a spanner into unpopular government decisions.
