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HERESY. Serious question. Creationists, which of the following makes me a heretic in your eyes;?
A. questioning Biblical inneracy?
B. studying the psychology of religion?
C. studying the evolution of religion?
And please, answer the question, it is not about Darwin. So any reply that involves Darwinism or the theory of evolution being a myth will just demonstrate your inability to read a question.
@ hobbes What, "labelling", creationists call themselves creationists so what do you mean? Please expand your reply, you may have an interesting point to make. Do remember I am accepting their, "label" of heretic.
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- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
I'm christian, but not a creationist. The three things you mentioned, can all be considered heresy depending on who makes the determination. Of course, there are many, many more things that could be considered heretical. Things like not believing in blanket salvation, saying that God is all inclusive and not exclusive, the world is full of heretics who do not even know it and probably don't give a #$%& about it either. Possibly the reason why there are many different versions of religions who all profess to worship the same God!
- Atarah DerekLv 79 years ago
None of the above. Everyone questions. Everyone searches. Now, what makes a heretic is someone making an unsupported claim that they know to be utterly false for the sole purpose of misleading people. To give you an idea, that gnostic that St. Nick decked at the Nicene Council? That was a heretic.
Or, to give you a biblical example, the teaching that Gentiles are not saved and going to heaven unless they circumcise themselves and live in accordance with Orthodox Jewish customs (i.e. the Talmud) is a claim of heresy--one that threatened to split the church, and which Paul addressed several times in his early letters.
- Old Timer TooLv 79 years ago
None of them. I do all three and consider myself to be religious (a Christian).
A - The Bible itself contains internal references to "Lost Books", which are those documents that are mentioned in the Bible in such a way that it is evident they were considered authentic and valuable, but that are not found in the Bible today.
B - Much of religion is psychology in action. Positive thinking, hope for something better, self-control of one's emotions -- these are all elements of psychology. (Added: Mary, Freud's ideas were substantially rejected by the larger community after about six months of publicity. Like many ideas concerning _why_ people behave the way they do, most ideas are shown to be incomplete because a new case will throw serious doubt on the idea.)
C - History clearly demonstrates (within the constraints of available literature) that many religions have evolved (changed) over time. This certainly applies to the Catholic path and is openly questioned by many people over apparent changes that have been made to the teachings contained in other denominations. I find that by studying that evolution, one can come to a better understanding of the denomination and its people.
Added: Heresy is generally considered to be an accusation levied against members of another group which has beliefs which conflict with those of the accusers. It is almost exclusively used to discuss violations of religious or traditional laws or codes, although it is used by some political extremists to refer to their opponents. It carries the connotation of behaviors or beliefs likely to undermine accepted morality and cause tangible evils, damnation, or other punishment from a god or gods. In some religions, it also implies that the heretic is in alliance with the religion's symbol of evil, such as Satan or chaos.
I do not consider any of the elements in your question qualifies as being heretical in nature.
- Anonymous9 years ago
The only way that, A,B, C, would lead one to be a heretic is if their view '' was a departure from the fundamental truth of the Gospel Message - which happened in the early Church 2Peter 2:1]
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- Anonymous9 years ago
None of the above. Questioning or studying never makes a person a heretic. It is good to study and question doctrine. It is holding unorthodox opinions that makes one a heretic, unbiblical doctrine that sort of thing. (By the way, is this Religious Instruction Homework?)
- Anonymous9 years ago
C.
Evolution is a theory.
Colossians 1:16
SDA
- Ernest SLv 79 years ago
You want to be serious?
For heresy or to be a heretic you must be a member of the religion that you contradict.
Which religion are you a member of?
It is axiomatic that God must be true, therefore truth can only be known from God. Apart from Him you cannot know anything. What you hold apart from Him is only what you think.
In a matter of your opinion, or man's opinion against God's revelation, only a fool will think that he knows better than God. That is obvious logic.
Since God, for excellent reasons, is hidden from us He can only be know by revelation. That should be crushingly obvious.
Therefore you need to seek Him to know anything.
When talking of knowledge there are two principal types, that derived from the senses and that known by revelation.
What you think you know is not true knowledge if you refuse revelation but can only be a temporal observation that is partial and cannot see all and is severely restricted in extent. As a simple illustration, you might think you can see an iceberg but 7/8ths is hidden from you.
It is what you do not know or see that proves you wrong. But God sees and knows all and understanding is obtained from Him. Without that you remain blind and in darkness while imagining that you know.
Can you see your foolishness?
As to the scientific evidence concerning Creation there is sufficient to prove, according to your own standards, that anything apart from Creation is quite impossible. It is the dishonesty of men that refuses to admit and seeks to ignore, which of course reveals motive.
This is what your question is really based upon, your motive to discredit or refuse or deny God's word.
But if you do not know God then you will be unable to recognise or "know" His word.
Yet His word is the means by which we may know Him.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
If you refuse God's word you make Him a liar and, of course, you will not have the Son nor the life. You will surely know that and cannot claim these things cannot be known.
If you make God a liar then you ill be unwilling to come to the light and have your deeds reproved.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
So by this you may know what you are - and it would be very much worse than a heretic, even in your own eyes.
- Anonymous9 years ago
A heretic is a person who does not follow a dogma. Think for yourself and question authority and you are a heretic. I know because I am a proud heretic.
- John SmithLv 59 years ago
Don't label people based on your beliefs
(not talking about labelling creationists. that is their belief. I mean calling someone else a heretic, heathen or infidel because they don't subscribe to your religion is ridiculous. And I am addressing creationists, not you.)
- JimLv 79 years ago
>I have often said this when the word HERESY is used: In order to hear the truth, we sometimes must SHOUT a heresy!
When they took Jesus before the Sanhedron to try him, one Pharisee amongst them asked Jesus, "You say you are the Son of God, are you the Son of God?"
Jesus replied, "Yes"
The Pharisees and Sadducees rent (ripped apart) their robes and screamed aloud! "HERESY! - He speaks Heresy! That is all we need to convict him - send him to the Romans!"
And so it was, that the Son of God, was sent to be crucified because he had the courage to speak the truth which authorities called a HERESY!