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Anonymous asked in Cars & TransportationOther - Cars & Transportation · 9 years ago

HORSEPOWER VS. TORQUE?

1) How is it that Diesel vehicles which have plenty of Torque on tap VS. Horsepower... are so SLOW when accelerating from 0-60 MPH or 0-100 KM/H? A gasoline/petrol powered vehicle of similar weight with supposedly less torque, but perhaps more horsepower compared to the diesel reaches those speeds much earlier.

2) Also, is it correct that HP & Torque figures provided by car makers with the RPM levels at which those listed numbers were rated or recorded at are the highest peaks of those curves?

(It only makes sense since car makers will always showcase the best possible numbers, why wouldn't they?)

3) In that case, for example, two different vehicles have same HP & Torque figures, EXCEPT one has Lower numbers for the @ X,XXX RPM (let us assume for both HP AND Torque) than the other...is it correct to assume that the one with LOWER RPM numbers accelerate to 60/100 earlier?

4) Is it true that car makers rate the HP/Torque of their cars differently, which essentially results in the reported HP/Torque figures by these car makers forwarded to their marketing departments POINTLESS (incomparable to other cars by other car makers).

I ask this because it seems as though some car makers brag about their cars having "best-in-class" HP (does that even mean anything to the average car buyer, because they hardly ever market best-in-class Torque unless it is for pickup trucks)...so sure, their cars do appear to have better numbers on paper in a side-by-side comparison against others, but then in real life testing?

I suspect that they are free to inflate their numbers somewhat because it is not regulated in the industry. For one thing, as I asked before, they could be relying on more "clever" testing procedures that facilitate those better numbers to be discovered.

Also, they are free to only list the HP/Torque figures, while suspiciously failing to disclose those potentially more meaningful @ X,XXX RPM numbers that may reveal more to the story.

(Even if they do, most consumers such as myself would hardly know what those RPM numbers mean)

5) Lastly, is it generally better to have a car that is: a) About Equal in terms of HP & Torque; b) MORE hp THAN torque; c) LESS hp THAN torque?

(Like, how would a car feel when accelerating from a dead stop in all 3 cases?)

Thank You!

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  • 9 years ago
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    1) Explained later in the link I will give you.

    2) Yes. Obviously they want to showoff the cars peak.

    3) If the cars were 100% identical except for those figures, yes.

    4) @RPM is usually disclosed if you do an Edmunds or Autos123 search or whatever. Though no, horsepower and torque numbers are never really inflated.

    5) Oh god. Explained in the link I'm about to give you.

    This is a write-up I wrote up about a month ago for this exact question. Here you go, it should THOROUGHLY answer your question: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthre...

  • 9 years ago

    You have obviously never drove a diesel truck if you say it has slow acceleration.

    My 07 cummins has 630hp and 1100 pounds of torque.

    i just press the 'gas' pedal slightly and it pulls away like theres no tomorrow. i actually have to let go of the 'gas' when i feel that the transmision is going to change gears because if not it just changes gears and redlines the next gear all the way to 140mph.

    And yes, its scary when i get on the highway and notice that im already going 100mph, and since the trucks fairly big (38in mickey tompsons on a 6in lift) it doesnt even feel like im going 50.

    I dont even let anyone drive it, its just that powerful. My brothers the last person that drove it, and he was pulling out of the driveway and gave it a bit of 'gas' and we hit the ditch on the other side of the road. He couldnt believe it, he kept telling me he was sorry and that he had only gently pressed it.

    It really does need some getting use too.

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