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Should I muck my horses stall at farm where I board?
I board at an old horseman farm; economy has really hurt them, the place has seen better days. Steve and Susan are very experienced, worth their weight X 10 in gold for the loving care they give the horses, best hay, notice every horse, if it gets a boo boo, you need help they are there, 24/7 on site management, medical care when the vets not available (he has antibotics bute etc and knows what to do), calls my horses in from field when I want to ride (she loves him) Steve was a jockey when young, learned the old horseman way; hard work and under many old timers that knew their stuff. His wife Susan has been in the business her whole life and seem to know about everything even medical needs of horses, carry an entire pharmacy and will treat my horse if the vet can't come or if he can save me $$
They are also my neighbors, in a tight nit community I have boarded there 10 yrs. Taught me how to saddle bridle and mini lessons of handling horses (just mentions things). Gave my 8 yr old his own horse, best darn horse I ever met, my kid cantered and flew on that horse for 4 yrs. You know kids, there is only one speed for a horse, fast as it can fly.
Issue: Steve cannot muck out stalls daily; his wife Susan is having a hard time with her leg and back can't do physical work. Steve works round the clock and can barely keep up the place. They have lost so many boarders, they can't afford to hire anyone
Stall Management Question
My 2 Mares share a stall, live outside most of the time, come in daily 3-4 hours a day for feed; my Paso likes to lay down and snooze she is too hyper to lay down in the field. She adores Steve; they have their own communication thing going on.
Barn is old but solid as a rock, many stalls to use for temporary feeding. He can't muck these out daily. This is what he does - and I dont know if it is OK
Instead of mucking out daily, he rotates the stalls, dries out the poo poo, packs it down, layers bedding ontop. He will muck out a stall when it hits about 8" or so.
Q: Is this method OK for my horses? I know humans would love to tuck them into a pretty stall, santized, pretty bedding, so many barns are for humans, not horses.
The horses have air flow and can stick their head outside, there is also air flow through the entire barn.
What do you think? I have no idea if this is going to cause my Mares health issues.
Now, I have a bad back and new (nasty knee replacement) so I am not much help.
I do have a 185 lb rock solid muscle 16 yr old boy the same one that enjoyed Steves personal horses, the one he would never lend out for 4 yrs
My kid can clean out that stall in 1/2 hour or less and haul away all 6-8" of packed poo poo.
He can also feed all horses fast, picks up 50 lb bails, puts the in wheel barrel, cuts the strings, pitches out the piles (many piles so no fighting).
I know Steve doesn't want boarders doing this, he has pride and his own ways.
If this were your horse, would you muck out the stall? Sanitize it? Is the method of drying the poo poo and layering bedding safe?
I can get my kid in there when Steve is not home; Susan his wife will let me
Your technical advice, not that it just isn't pretty, is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
My goal is to make sure my Mares are A-OK in health. I cannot build Steve & Sue's business for them. They would not tolerate it nor would it really help less I buy the place and re do the interior of the barn and make other changes. I have no plans of getting into the horse business; I like trail riding. I do pass along their name, location, price and quality of care. Few can see past the need for the face lift given the gorgeous barns that have opened up in our area in which humans could live nice and comfy. Think I will bring my kid over here and there if thrush is a possibility. My son is a willing hard worker and does not need money to help out our neighbors, still thinks Magic was his horse, loves Steve and Sue. Thanks for everyones help. Much appreciated.
My goal is to make sure my Mares are A-OK in health. I cannot build Steve & Sue's business for them. They would not tolerate it nor would it really help less I buy the place and re do the interior of the barn and make other changes. I have no plans of getting into the horse business; I like trail riding. I do pass along their name, location, price and quality of care. Few can see past the need for the face lift given the gorgeous barns that have opened up in our area in which humans could live nice and comfy. Think I will bring my kid over here and there if thrush is a possibility. My son is a willing hard worker and does not need money to help out our neighbors, still thinks Magic was his horse, loves Steve and Sue. Thanks for everyones help. Much appreciated.
4 Answers
- CarlLv 59 years agoFavorite Answer
that's a tough situation. the biggest problem with not mucking the stalls daily is the build up of ammonia from the urine. you say the barn has good ventilation so maybe it's not too big of a deal. i understand your relationship with these folks is almost like family so if i were you and had a son like you do i would do all i could to help even if it had to be done behind his back. he'll find out eventually and if he gives you grief about it you could just say, you're my friend and friends help friends, you've helped me more than you had to over the years, so now it's my turn.
- Go BigLv 69 years ago
What is your ultimate goal?
Are you most concerned about the health and well being of your own horses or would you like to see the place up and running again full of new boarders?
Too many people these days wouldn't help these people because "nothing is in it for them." You may not get monetary reward or even a reduction off your board, but at least it might give a "push" in the right direction.
Who knows, after Steve sees how helpful an extra person can be he may warm up to the idea of some help around the place.
As far as if the dried stalls are safe, I would think so. It's dry and as long as ammonia isn't built up, it should be okay.
- 9 years ago
I don't know about the whole stall thing, usally once it is dry it is pretty much new soil so I would think it would be alright.On the isssue of you son working ask steve to consider paying your son a low wage to come by and do some chorse around the barn. You shouldn't force your son to do this if he really doesn't want to but remind him of whatever new "Thing" he wants and he might feel a bit more enthused. Also tell Steve of the new thing your son wants and how steve could help him get itby having him work for him, it might make him a little more receptive to paying someone. If he can't [ay him right then, ask if your son could be on a trial basis for a few weeks. Your mare's stall you could do every day or so and it would keep it from becoming a lot of work as it won't pile up.
- 9 years ago
if any footing is bad, it can lead to health issues for your horse's feet. could be worse if they're eating off that ground too because bugs are probably nesting in the manure on the ground.
but id say your horses are more vulnerable to getting thrush, especially if they're standing in pee or anything moist, in their feet which can be a pain to get rid off and to treat so i'd say try to keep the stalls clean.
Source(s): my horse has gotten thrush. was a pain in the ass.