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Find quadratic polynom?
Let u > v > w are roots of cubic equation x^3 - 3x + 1 = 0.
Find such quadratic polynom Q(x), that Q(u) = v, Q(v) = w and Q(w) = u.
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Edit.
Hi John:
u = 2cos 40° = 1.532088886
v = 2cos80° = 0.347296355
w = -2cos20° = -1.879385242
It’s fine, wolframalpha says the same :-)
Q(x)=-0.397422994x² - 0.790727208x + 0.264948663
Q(u)=-0.397422994(1.532088886)² - 0.790727208(1.532088886) + 0.264948663 = -1.879385249
Q(v)=-0.397422994(0.347296355)² - 0.790727208(0.347296355) + 0.264948663 = -0.057603092
Q(w)=-0.397422994(-1.879385242)² - 0.790727208(-1.879385242) + 0.264948663 = 0.347296367
But
-1.879385249 ≠ 0.347296355
-0.057603092 ≠ -1.879385242
0.347296367 ≠ 1.532088886
:-(((
So we have to find another Q(x). Let us hope it will have integer coefficients.
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2 Answers
- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
Q(x)=-0.397422994x² - 0.790727208x + 0.264948663.
The roots of the cubic (I found them by Cardano's method)
are u = 2cos 40°, v = 2cos80°, w = -2cos20° (u>v>w).
I got 3 equations in the 3 unknowns a, b, c (where Q(x) =
ax² +bx +c) and the answer
by heavy, numerical algebra (done by hand with a pocket
calculator, as I haven't got a software package, like Mathlab,
etc to assist me). I tried keeping the trig forms but found the
algebra even messier than
with numbers. No doubt keeping the trig forms simplifies
somewhat, and keeping the answers in trig form does give you
the exact solution. If you want to go down this road, I've given
you enough information to carry on. BTW, I've found c=-2a/3
by using the theory of eqns (sum of roots, product of roots, etc)
on the cubic.
My quadratic is clearly wrong. I should have checked it, like you did.
After going through all that number work I didn't have the will to
do any more of the same. Your hint that the quadratic has integer
coefficients is the best news I've had today. I might have a crack at
it later on. [I am partially sighed, and my eye tires quickly].
Hi Oregfiu,
Your belief that Q(x) has integer coefficients gave me courage to
tackle this using the exact trig forms, and it paid off. It was rather
easier than I expected.
Q(u)=v, Q(v)=w, Q(w)=u give (after simplifying):
asin40+bsin20=cos50=sin40
asin80-bcos50=cos10=sin80
By inspection these equations are satisfied by
a=1, b=0. So Q(x)=x² - 2. [c=-2a; to get this I
evaluated ∑u² =6, using the theory of eqns on
the cubic. If you want details post a note and I'll
fill you in].
Regards, John
- gianlinoLv 79 years ago
I guess this is cheating but... call x = 2 cos t.
Then 8 cos^3 t - 6 cos t + 1 =0 <===> cos(3t) = -1/2.
So t = 2pi/9, 4pi/9 or 8 pi/9.
notice that cos 16 pi/ 9 = cos 2 pi/9, so that t ---> 2t gives a circular correspondance.
Starting from P( cos t) = cos 2t for P = 2X^2 - 1, you can find Q.
Set cos t = u/2 so that P(cos(t)) = v / 2.
Then 2(u/2)^2 - 1 = v/2 or u^2 - 2 = v^2. Same for (v,w) and (w,u). So Q(x) = x^2 - 2