What the hey with Mini Aussies ...?

ASDR & MASCA register & call them Miniature Australian Shepherds.

AKC registers & calls them Miniature American Shepherds. These are dogs that were formally registered as Miniature Australian Shepherds with different registries. And some of these dogs are actually dogs that were formally AKC registered as Australian Shepherds & have chosen to be "rehomed" in the new breed. And since the breed has been AKC/FSS for 16 months now (since May 2011) there are dogs that have been born to AKC registered Miniature American Shepherds & registered straight into AKC as Miniature American Shepherds.

ASCA refuses to admit that Mini Aussies exist under any name.

UKC at this time does not register them. They were trying to get the breed UKC recognized under the name North American Shepherds. I believe that effort is in a permanent holding pattern at this time.

I am not familiar with CDHPR.

There are a few different issues to round out.

First, let's talk registries. A registry is just an independant holder of documents. Some go beyond that, but to be a registry that's all you really have to do. The AKC and the UKC are the most common registries, with the AKC being more involved in conformation showing and the UKC more involved in field trials. The UKC doesn't give as many services as the AKC, but the AKC has no compunction about registering puppy-mill pups, and will register anything as long as the two parents are also registered, regardless of how far outside the standard or how unhealthy the dogs are.

There are of course other registries in other nations. Many are run quite differently. For example, in Germany a dog has to undergo screening for ability, health concerns, temperment, and finally conformation toward the breed standard. The dog is then given different types of papers based on where it falls.

In the USA there are also many recently started up registries that will register pretty much anything. There are a few that have been in existance since the 1940s and are at least as good as the AKC, but there are other ones that pop up overnight, really serve only one breed, and quickly die out.

So lets talk about discovering or inventing a new breed.

*poof* There is a new breed of dog called the YahooHound. Now what? What prevents someone else from creating a similar looking dog by mixing established breeds and claiming it is a YahooHound. A breed registry! Of course I as the inventor of the YahooHound can invent the American YahooHound Association and set up a registry so only YahooHounds with AYA papers are 'real' YahooHounds. But a copycat, or just some guy who buys my pups and who doesn't agree with me can set up the YahooHound Breeders Association and now there are two competing registries.

This is why when dealing with less common and newer dog types there can be so many different registries.

Now, clearly if I can get the YahooHound registred with the AKC or UKC then it becomes a lot more clear which is the the 'true' YahooHound and which is the copycat. Unfortunately some people who develope new breeds see how the nature of conformation shows done AKC style change a breed and hence actively avoid AKC registraiton, but then some little splinter group or copycat group will go get their dogs AKC approval and all of a sudden the copies are seen by most as the 'true' dogs.

One of the things the AKC does is it requires all new dog breeds wanting to come in to have a 'parent group' of breeders who decide the details about what the breed should be, then the AKC looks them over to make sure the dogs aren't too similar to an existing breed it has registered and that it is detailed enough. This is just like the registries above (often they are one-and-the-same), the one that starts dealing with the AKC may not be the first, the main, or the most popular.

The ASCA is the 'parent club' of the regular size assies andoriginally did both regular and mini versions and was linked up with the National Stock Dog Registry, but since then has tried to split the mini out. Most ASCA people were concerned about AKC shows ruining the dog, but a different club formed up and got AKC recognition. In fact now thanks to the AKC being concerned with friviouls stuff, there is a 'working type' of aussie with great cattle sense but shorter coats, (some even look vauglely like a border collie) and a 'show type' of aussie with less cattle sense but a much more full coat.

So the ASCA splinter group that got AKC registration turned violently on the mini version of Aussies, calling them mutts because they didn't have AKC registry...even though just a few short years before Aussies didn't have AKC registry either....and many standard size assies are registered ONLY with the ASCA not the AKC...and a few are even still registered with the NSDR.

SOME of the mini aussie people decided to try and get AKC recognition, some decided to stay wtih the NSDR, and some decided to form their own registries. One of which is the ASDR, which tries to make it sound like the NSDR, a multibreed working dog registry.

So, to be part of the AKC there needed to be a parent club for the minis. That's where the MASCA came to be, although it went thorugh many different names. See the AKC pays attention to what it's current big breeds say. For example, when the Shetland Sheepdog and the English Shepherd were trying to get accepted, they wanted the names Shetland Collie and English Collie but the 'real' Collie people (Scotch Collie) stomped on anyone else using the name Collie.

Just seeing that they aren't famous via AKC or any other kennel club does not imply they're unhealthy pets. They're well-known through NSDR. Yes there are irresponisble mini australian shep breeders however its that method with all breeds. You need to do your research and query the breeder. They don't seem to be fashion designer breeds, there is no such factor. But they're additionally no longer mutts, like some folks say. They were bred from the runt of the litter that doesn't make them dangerous puppies or at larger chance for wellbeing issues. I've one and he's flawlessly healthy. Most of the individuals on listed here are simply persons who dont think blended breeds are just right enough for them. I don't consider some breeders that overprice their doggies since they are some targeted breed. You must be careful when buying a mini aussie considering yes individuals over rate them. Depending on the colour dont pay more than 400. Plus some individuals breed for the champion bloodline, and the rate goes up. And that i heard they'll be authorized via AKC soon as well, however I dont know for definite. Nor do I care on account that not like these kind of individuals i really like my canine, and not don't forget him some silly mutt. I have a 60 pound AKC aussie and a 20 pound NSDR mini aussie and they act the same, they've the identical amount of enery and so they look the designated same. Just one is smaller. And individuals who breed Aussies and Shelties are unhealthy breeders, its that simple. Like I said, query the breeder before you pick a puppy. Also, How do you believe they bought the Mini Dachshund or the Mini Schnauzer or the Mini Poodle, the equal manner!!! They were bred from the runt of the litter as well. You guys are simply hating on them when you consider that they are fairly new.

There is no such breed, The AKC does not recognize the "Miniature Australian Shepherd" and neither does the UKC. There is a breed in the AKC Foundation Stock Service called the Miniature AMERICAN Shepherd. Yes, they "look" like a Small Australian Shepherd but they are NOT "Mini Aussies"

The Australian Shepherd club has said this

"The Miniature Australian Shepherd, North American Shepherd, North American Miniature Australian Shepherd, and/or Toy Australian Shepherd breeds are not recognized as a variety of Australian Shepherd by ASCA. The club considers such dogs to be a distinct and separate breed and will not accept them into its registry."

The MASCUSA says

"The Miniature American Shepherd Club of the USA (MASCUSA) was selected in May 2011 as the parent club of the Miniature American Shepherd for the American Kennel Club."

- But the issue with that is that they are NOT AKC registrable and they probably never will be. The backyard breeders who churn them out have no intent on making them a registrable breed.