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Fantasy Football League claims collusion, is this a trade that is fair?
My wife and I each have a team and I'm trying to trade between them. Any time I have ever done this I've been accused of collusion no matter how fair the trade is. I just want to see if this is a fair trade and if you would let the trade go through. Standard ESPN scoring, keeper league.
Ray Rice(#2 RB) and James Jones(#23 WR) for Julio Jones(#17 WR), Doug Martin(#24 RB), Lance Moore(#15 WR), Ben Tate(#30 RB) and Michael Bush(#21 RB).
The team giving up Rice has some issue concerns, with their #1 WR Greg Jennings out "for as long as he needs to be to be 100% healthy"
The league is claiming collusion the other way, saying that team 2 isnt giving up enough for Rice
We've had 2 trades vetoed this week. First involved Rice and Greg Jennings for moore, martin, antonio brown and amendola(#11 WR at the time. Second was Rice and Colston for roughly the same. I'm specifically trying to avoid collusion, I realize looking back that the first trade may have been lopsided, but given that Jennings is out "as long as he has to be to be 100%" I figured he may be out a few weeks, which hurts his value. Second, I figured people thought Jennings was too good, so I replaced him with Colston, who is getting the 3rd most targets on his team and was like WR #28 ish. This most recent trade I believe is very fair because you got Julio who is a stud, Bush who put up his best numbers as a backup, so Forte coming back helps him, Moore who has been averaging double digit targets, Martin who is solid but not great and Tate, who last year was a top 15 RB as a backup, and being the Foster seems to get injured a bit, isnt a bad spot to have on your bench
4 Answers
- LegFuJohnsonLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
You start by saying "I'm trying to trade between them", not "My wife and I are trying to make a trade".
"Any time I have done this", not "any time we have done this"
Right away, I think you have two teams in this league, which is garbage.
Now, that doesn't mean the trades aren't fair, perhaps you are trying to make each of your teams better, I have no way of knowing if the team giving up Rice needs all those bench players or not. And Forte coming back doesn't help Bush. Moore is hurt (out this week), and so is Tate (game time decision), so you don't have to try to sell us on them.
- MessykattLv 79 years ago
This is not collusion. It's a stupid trade on the part of whoever is giving up Rice, but collusion isn't about a dumb trade. It's about an obvious imbalance, like getting a b/u TE for Rice.
However, you say "every time I try this". It's only been 4 weeks. How many trade offers have there been between you and your wife? I'm a Commish in a couple of leagues, and each has family members in the same league. If there were multiple trades between 2 of them this early in the season, I might be asking about that. Your wife isn't the only other owner in the league, and it's not possible that for every move you want to make, she's your best trading partner. This might be what they're reacting to.
EDIT: I think the problem is that it looks like you're determined to give Rice to your wife. Like I said, neither of these earlier trades are collusion and this one isn't, either. Jennings is completely irrelevant. He's been a low level flex play since the second half of last season.
I'd have to see your team to figure out anything else, but I'm guessing it's the repeated attempts you've made to get Rice on your wife's roster. Unless you are lights out at RB, this is going to look shady. I think your commish is an idiot, because these trades on their own aren't bad enough to be vetoed. It's more the repeated efforts you're making with one elite player and one specific trading partner. In fact, you never stated why you're trading at all or what you hope to gain.
- 9 years ago
Ok well first of all, a 2 for 5 trade is almost unheard of. So to put it simply this trade is not fair, Rice is great but not quite worth all of that. Plus James Jones is too inconsistent for him to be a serious WR for someone's team. I suspect collusion hahaha
- 9 years ago
I would let this trade go through. In order for it to be collusion, it has to be REALLY unbalanced. Honestly - I'm not sure which one of you is getting the better deal. It's a quantity vs. quality thing.
Rice is a stud. For him, you're getting a good WR in Julio, a solid-but-unspectacular back in Martin and 3 okay players. If you're looking for a big haul of players to fill out your roster, that trade will work for you. If you're looking for that one big stud who will put your team over the top, Rice is a good get.
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