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Anonymous asked in Arts & HumanitiesBooks & Authors · 8 years ago

Why do some writers ask others for character names on Books and Authors?

I see it all the time. "Give me names for my character," "give me a posh name," "give me a full name," or "give me a last name." Could someone explain that logic to me, because I don't get it?

If a character is important to the writer, then why not take the time to come up with the right name for him, her or it? What the heck is a posh name anyway? Why do characters need full names? Assuming we're not naming everyone in our story the same first name, who cares what the rest of the name is? How are we supposed to choose names for a writer after giving a physical description of a character? What's the purpose of a physical description anyway, since almost all of them sound like characters from an anime, not from real life? "I want a strong name for my main character." What's a weak name? Did the character's fictional parents pick the name, because they knew their baby would grow up to be "a strong character?" How did strong character come to mean "5'11", cerulean eyes, thin and lanky, but powerful and long wavy blond hair? Or, if she's a girl, it's guaranteed she's 5'5", amber eyes, and basically the same description in female form. Both descriptions work for a main character or the villain. Both work for a minor character too, although, it seems, only girls are supposed to have yellow eyes.

How tall was Harry Potter? How tall was Katkiss? (I haven't read either series, but I'm guessing there is only a general description of the characters. LOL) Did either author go into great detail exactly what the characters looked like? Did either author ask people online to tell them what to name the characters?

So, I'm very lost. Exactly why is it that each day is spent asking people online to name characters based on stuff that doesn't matter and never falls together in real life for what the character should look like, based on a simple name? Can anyone explain the logic to that for me, because I don't see it. And stranger yet, all those questions get a multitude of answers, like everyone knows just the right name and yet no two names are identical.

Update:

A pet peeve, huh? I thought I was missing something. I do understand several ways to come up with names. Sometimes I name sidekicks after good friends. I like unisex names for tom girls, like Pat, Casey, or Lou. Since my story is set in 2011 (one of my characters is named this name I gave myself on here, because his parents named him Philip after the Phila. Phillies when they won the World Series three years earlier--he's "almost four") and most of the characters are 10 and 11, I searched for the most popular baby names in 2001. One of those girl names says something about the girl named that in the story. And, if my story is about creeps I know, I give them names no one uses anymore (like John), so if they read it, they won't know. Mostly, I pick the first name that comes to mind, and if I don't like it, I'll change it. But, I've written my first novel (I'm still revising it), and only one character has a last name. The only reason he has a last name

Update 2:

(Oops. Yahoo cut me off. Good thing I copied first. LOL)

The only reason he has a last name is because of a running joke in the story. I know a writer who wrote a take-off of The Wizard of Oz and he chose all his names off the original names--like the Cowardly Lion was Harry (as in the lion's fur.)

But the thing about picking names that bothers me most is when someone asks for a "villain's name" and answerers give every day names. What's wrong with Phil, even if that's not my real name? LOL (I'm "Phillies Phan," but that name was already taken, so I changed it around.)

Update 3:

There is nothing wrong with "seeing what's out there." It's part of the effort of writing. It's called "research" not polling people you don't know. There is something wrong with that. It proves little effort will go into the story, so why bother reading it?

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    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    A posh name is an aristocratic-sounding name (upper class/elitist).

    People who ask these types of questions are those who still haven't recognized that writing is a solitary endeavor (at least at this point in the process). They all share one similarity: they're beginning writers. And because of this, they haven't learned to differentiate the trivial writing matters from the more important things. It's similar to how people ask for plot lines.

    On the other hand, some people (one of my contacts, as a matter of fact), likes to play around with character names the same way some authors like to play around with word choice. So they ask these sort of questions to pass time while they're musing over their own stories.

    edit: Also, I suspect a certain degree of distrust in their decision making plays a roll. They're asking for a general consensus on what other people like so that they choose a name that will be liked by their readers. Again...they will eventually learn that this is trivial and they'll move on.

  • 8 years ago

    I agree with you, but if you tell any of the Askers that physical description doesn't matter -- that they should name the character based upon what the character's parents would decide or names which were common to the time period/location -- the Asker gets p*ssed and says something like if you're not going to really answer their question, **** off.

    Honestly, I believe it's younger, more inexperienced writers who do this. I don't recall ever using YA! to look for names, but I do remember in middle school often surfing the web, looking for names which related to my character's purpose, personality, etc. Naming a character is kind of like naming a child, and you'll notice younger parents (and movie stars) are more prone to giving their kids ridiculous names. When inexperienced writers think of names, they think, "What is original? What sounds cool and different? What fits this character?" while more experienced writers think, "What makes the most sense? What would this character's parents name their child?"

    Just as inexperienced writers are going to ask you for character's names or opinions on character names, inexperienced writers are going to answer those sort of questions seriously. No one knows the right name, but everyone has an opinion. You, understanding the pointlessness of such questions, of course find it ridiculous, but the people who ask and answer still believe that it is very important. Also, they could just want a best answer.

    Source(s): I've read Harry Potter, and I remember distinctly that in one of the books, Harry is described as the shortest of his friends, and Ron the tallest. I think this description has something to do with them using the invisibility cloak -- I'm not sure. But it only appeared once that I remember, and none of my friends believe me to this day. Height is clearly not very important.
  • 8 years ago

    *Adds you as a contact*

    THANK YOU. I never understood this, I asked a question about it myself a while back. Firstly, I don't understand why you would even want someone else to come up with your characters names-I wouldn't be comfortable writing something knowing that the name(s) I keep writing were not of my own decision, it would make me feel like my characters aren't actually mine. Then there's what you said, which is my main issue with those questions; "'I want a strong name for my main character.' What's a weak name? Did the character's fictional parents pick the name, because they knew their baby would grow up to be 'a strong character?'" Try as I might, I've never been able to understand that logic. Why does your character need a name pertaining to their personality traits, when their parents obviously wouldn't have known anything about their personality when they were born? I go on random name generators and pick which ones I like (and possibly tweak them a bit), I feel like some people on this site over-think things like names. As for your last sentence, that's yet another thing I will never understand. Those questions get by far the most answers, and that's always bugged me because it's just random people thinking that they know so much about what a 'strong name' is.

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you oh lord :) That is my biggest pet peeve of all the pet peevish questions that tend to get asked on this forum. A name is the easiest thing in the world to come up with. Especially for a main character. I know what the main characters are going to be called (first and last name) before I even begin writing the story. They are basically whatever name I happen to be fond of at any given time. As for the minor characters, I tack an inconsequential name on them. Something basic or simple: Bob, Phil, Larry, George. It doesn't matter. That character will probably only be mentioned a couple times tops anyway and their name is the least of their signifcance to the story. If you pick a name for a character, main character or minor, and decide you don't care for it, then change it. It's just there to identify them until you come up with something better. I pick names out of phone books, CD liner notes, they're inspired by book characters I've read about; sometimes, strangely enough, they kind of come to me out of thin air. I needed a last name for a character that sounded kind of "British." Inspired by a musician, I had something in mind for the type of name I was looking for. My British character's last name is similar to this musician. The net is full of all sorts of baby name sites and even surname sites. You can find Irish names and Italian names and Hindu names and Indian names, etc. Anything you could possibly want in a name. Have the patience to look around and see what's there. Something will jump out at you. And if you are spending hours on such a pursuit and still can't decide on a name for a character then you're overthinking it. Pick the one that even vaguely jumps out at you and I guarantee it will either grow on you as you develop the character or you will have come up with something better by the time you've decided to change it. But please, please, please. Just pick something. It won't matter. I have a plain Jane and the all too common John and Michael as characters :) But the characters themselves have become much bigger than their names. They outshine them.

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  • 8 years ago

    I've been through this so many times in my head, and you just summed up exactly how I feel about it. Like you said, the most annoying thing about asking for character names (AND PLOTS - ARGH!) is the lack of effort put in. It's their story, *they* have to live it and make it real for us, not the other way around.

    Names come naturally for me, and I understand that they don't for everyone. But there I things that I get stuck on as well obviously, like plot holes. When I reach one I seem to fall in for a day or two before climbing back up. But I don't ask other people to do it for me!

    Oh! And you know what else annoys me? If you answer saying that they should come up with it themselves, some get really defensive about their novel. A lot of people in B&A are writers. Learn to take criticism, dude.

    Some lessons just come with practice. Character names do not define the character.

    So, in conclusion, I agree with you.

    :)

    *Goes back to doing coursework that I should have finished days ago.*

    EDIT - @Writah - There is nothing wrong with seeing what's out there, but can't you go on baby name sites for that? What bugs me is people just asking for names (AND PLOTS - see a pattern here?) and expecting them to be handed to them on a plate.

  • 8 years ago

    I totally get this! It's so annoying when people say what's an evil name? What's a servant's name? For crying out loud if you are a slave and you have a child your not gonna think oh i better call them a slaves name and if you give birth to a daughter who turns evil in 20 years your not gonna purposely think of a name that sounds evil when theyre not even born!

    I did just post a question about names but that was only because I'd already given all my characters names and I wanted to see just for fun how people imagined them to be without a description. It was quite funny cos they all pictured this one character as a blonde girly girl when she is a black haired tomboy but the name still fits her so names aren't everything.

    Source(s): please answer my question http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=An...
  • I agree with most of what the other users are saying, but I have a little more to add as an answer to your actual question.

    There's no denying that certain names draw certain associations. And that a lot of people think of these associations when they think of these names. And there’s always a chance that if you ask what to name a specific type of character, someone will give you a name which you share a specific association with the answerer. Example – you watch Teen Titans and you’ve read The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe – Raven is suddenly a good name for a dark personality character. But you forget all about that name, ask on yahoo what a good name for a dark character could be, someone says Raven, and , “Ah - yes! That fits my character.”

    I think some writers have a general need to define their characters with something. Make the character fit to something. Make the character feel more real to them. Maybe it’s not such a bad thing that a lot of beginner writers do this. They realize it *is* important for characters to be realistic or unique. But they don’t realize there is no “perfect name” that will do this. A “beautiful hero name” for a beautiful hero character and an “ugly villain name” for an ugly villain tends to point toward under-developed characters. Not developed characters. So – all in all – they don’t realize names aren’t beneficial to the characters themselves.

    However, just because someone wants a name to fit a character doesn’t mean it’s for a bad reason. Take The Scarlet Letter for example. Hester named her daughter Pearl. Hester *treasures* Pearl. A pearl can be a treasure. That’s fair “fitting”. It’s part of Hester’s characterization, for she named Pearl herself.

    Lastly, I might as well mention it – I asked a couple of name questions for my characters when I was 13 :P Truth be told! I don’t ask them anymore. I’ve never tried to match a name’s meaning to a character though (unless it mattered to the plot). Now I could less for others’ name opinions. I don’t need to find a “perfect name”. I actually grow to like the names because I simply like my characters. But I still do like finding names I like. I don’t care who finds that a pet peeve – I like names I like XD

  • 8 years ago

    *whooping cheers and round of applause*

    You've just basically summed up what I think nearly every time I come on to this section. I know each author works differently, but it baffles me when people feel the need to put a very formal police-style report of their character in their novel. I don't give a flying *beep* what height they are, how their hair lies, their exact bust size, shoe size and so on! To me, just saying the hair colour, eye colour and, at a stretch, face shape is just enough.

    As for the name... I give up. I used to answer them, saying how no person knows how their kid will grow up and so with that in mind the name doesn't have to mean "strong", "beautiful" or whatever. But as you might well know, you might as well be talking to a stuffed bear. For my character, I just named her. I didn't even know the meaning, and as for all of the other characters they just had random names slapped on them - looks, personality and so on has zero to do with names in my opinion.

    I've seen the same user post "name this character" questions for days on end, and I just think "Why??". Just pick a name, and have done with it. If you come to hate it, just use "find and replace" on the story to change it - as I have done in the past with my MC's name - but don't, for the love of all that is sane, spend hours waiting for someone to hand you the perfect name!

    *takes a deep breath* Rant over.

  • xoxo
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    I agree but i REALLY think a name is very important. I try my best to think of it on my own but sometimes I draw a real blank especially on last names. I want them to be captivating and fit the image of my character. Obviously I would know my character the best but I've found some GREAT names from yahoo answerers that really helped make my character. Full names are intriguing, Katniss's name is fantastic it just makes you want to read more.

  • 8 years ago

    I don't understand the whole "my character's name must describe some aspect of him/her" either. I admit I've asked for occasional name help, but mostly due to being unable to decide between a few names.

    What baffles me beyond everything though is "I want to write a book, give me a plot idea." If you want to write, come up with your own plot.

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