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How is Northern Irish defined, what is Northern Irishness, how is Northern Irish different from Irish?
How is Northern Irish defined, what is Northern Irishness, how is Northern Irish different from Irish?
Is Northern Irishness really just Northern Ireland industries and products like the Harland and Wolfe cranes, white star line Titanic and Tayto crisps.
I know about the Orange order stuff but I thought that was more to do with British culture in Northern Ireland rather than the Northern Irish type side of Northern Ireland.
Is the Irish accent of Northern Ireland maybe even Northern Irishness but their is differences in accent in different places in Northern Ireland.
Are Northern Irish different citizenships/nationalities? Could a person in Northern Ireland with an Irish passport be Northern Irish and how is the Northern Irishness different from their British or Irish citizenship?
Could a person from Northern Ireland with an Irish passport or a British be Northern Irish? How is Northern Irish different from their citizenship on their passport?
*Could a person from Northern Ireland with an Irish passport or a British passport be Northern Irish? How is Northern Irish different from their citizenship on their passport?
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- ?Lv 68 years agoFavorite Answer
Northern Ireland is an area in the north ease island of Ireland that is under British rule, meaning it is part of the United Kingdom.
Basically the difference between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland is that the majority of the people in Northern Ireland are Protestant (Presbyterian and Church of Ireland) whereas the majority of the Republic of Ireland are Catholic.
- eponaLv 68 years ago
I don't believe there is any "one size fits all" answer to your question.
The people of Ulster (which includes the six counties of Northern Ireland) have always been a bit different to the rest of the Irish people, and that was from before Christianity arrived.
By the way, the man who later became St. Patrick was a slave in what we now call Northern Ireland and when he returned to Ireland, he returned via Strangford Lough in County Down (part of N. Ireland). Downpatrick, where he is supposedly buried (some believe he's buried elsewhere, though I don't know where that might be) is named after Ireland's patron Saint.
Northern Ireland is a relatively recent political invention in the history of the island, if you consider a hundred years recent.
Northern Irish could be defined as "a person born and/or living in Northern Ireland."
They can be Protestant (Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Methodist and other forms of Protestantism) or Roman Catholic. A Northern Irish person could practice another religion, though they would be in the minority. Most people in Northern Ireland are Caucasian.
The last Celtic strongholds were partly in what we now call Northern Ireland... read up on "The Flight of the Earls" : http://www.irelandseye.com/aarticles/history/event... and/or http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/flig...
Many people from Northern Ireland have their accent mistaken for that of a Scottish accent (by those who aren't so well attuned to the subtle differences between accents).
A person born in Northern Ireland can have both a British and an Irish passport if s/he chooses.
The expression "Emerald Isle" to describe Ireland was coined by a person from Norn Iron.
My grandparents were born in Ireland (Counties L'Derry, Antrim and Down), before Northern Ireland existed.
A Roman Catholic and a Protestant from Ulster are more alike than a Catholic (or a Protestant) from N. Ireland and a Roman Catholic (or a Protestant) from the Republic, especially from around Dublin.
My ancestry that we've been able to trace so far (back to the mid-1700s) is roughly half native Irish and half Ulster-Scot (i.e. Plantation stock, of whom many were actually returning to Ulster after not living there a couple of hundred years).
Somewhat argumentative amongst ourselves and they'll always find an excuse for an argument. Not the most endearing Celtic trait.
The Norn Irish are very hospitable people; some visitors to Ireland say they are friendlier than the Irish south of the border (which I realize is also west!)
Like people everywhere, each person in Norn Iron is unique.
- Anonymous8 years ago
Northern Irish refers to somebody from Northern Ireland. The Northern Irish accent is not confined to Northern Ireland, it can also be heard around the border area in the Republic. People in Northern Ireland identify with being British, Northern Irish and Irish, either one or a mixture of these. People in Northern Ireland can hold an Irish or British passport. I live in the Republic, I was born in London, I hold a British passport, I identify myself with being Irish, English and British, so you see someone's identity is really a personal thing. Yes some people do indeed identify exclusively with a Northern Irish identity. I don't see how it is different, this is a very complicated question, I think a persons identity is a personal thing that is exclusive to them.
- ?Lv 68 years ago
Northern Ireland comprises of six counties that although still on the island of Ireland is under British Rule and is part of the UK.People living in Northern Ireland can qualify for a dual passport. Irish and British. Now although this might seem strange for people from large continents, almost every county in Ireland has a different accent. Particularly the Northern accent differs from the Southern.I have a brother living in Northern Ireland, I am in Dublin and he has acquired an northern accent and his children and my children have different accents.They are still Irish just in a different state.
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- ?Lv 48 years ago
Well Northern Ireland is separated between those who believe it to be Northern Ireland (As a country) and those who view it as the north of Ireland (that isn't it's own country and simply part of Ireland as a whole)
There's nothing particularly different about Northern Ireland than any of other country I've been to tbh. It doesn't really differ from Ireland, apart from Gealic isn't widely spoken throughout many parts of Northern Ireland whereas it would be fairly common in the republic.
The Orange order is on the loyalist/protestant side of the country; which is British.
People from England, etc don't seem to notice a differ in accent, but when you hear the different accents everyday it becomes apparent that there is a big difference - I'm from Ballymena (Northern Ireland) and my accent is completely different then Belfast - which isn't far away, and it again is much different than Dublin or Cork accents.. It's like any other country again because there are lots of different accents in England for example.
- Anonymous8 years ago
Northern Ireland is officially a country of its own. It's part of the UK, like Scotland or Wales.
It's a bit like North Korea and South Korea if you wanna think of it like that. Although we don't have any WMD's.... but lots of WKD's lol.
Anyway, some people in N. Ireland like it being part of the UK, some don't. Some see it as being part of Ireland but that's a whole debate on its own...
Either way a person born in N. Ireland can describe themselves as Northern Irish. Although the people who feel it's really part of Ireland may not want to describe themselves that way and prefer just calling themselves Irish.
Legally you can claim dual nationality. You can have an Irish passport or a British depending which represents you best.
Personnally I like the term N. Irish! I like to think of it as neutral. You're not saying you're British and you're not saying you're Irish - you're something in between, like a bi-sexual.
..but then of course people just ask what school you went to and find out if you're a prod or what that way lol.
Source(s): Me head hi bai - 8 years ago
there is no such thing as northern irishness, in fact the most northerly point of the island of ireland is in donegal which is in the republic, its called malin head.
people born in the what is known as northern ireland have a choice of dual nationality, the 6 counties that make up northern ireland are part of the UK so under british rule however they are not british people because they dont come from britain, they are irish because they have been born born on the island of Ireland. the culture is mixed between nationalists and unionists, there is no such thing as a northern irish passport, just a choice of an ROI passport or a GB & N.I. passport
- The TeacherLv 58 years ago
Its very easy. Scotland people are called scottish but as part of the Uk are British with a British passport. Same for those in England and Wales and N. Ireland. Northern Ireland or Northern Irish is to distinguish and emphasise that they are from N. ireland and British. So thats why they are not referred to as Irish. Its simple.
Of course they are not even close to being Irish. Difference is beyong imagination . For example -outlook, religion, clothes, sports, food, beliefs, money, ambitions, etc. Its like comparing a elehant and a worm.
The Irish people living in people in N. Ireland although all British are allowed since 1998 to claim Irish citizen. This extra clause however was merely added as as a temorary measure to appease the IRA terrorists in exchange for the Dublin government removing its fantasy claim to N. Ireland. This finally and firmly showed the two countries could never be one and the Dublin government finally accepted this.
Source(s): Good Friday Agreement 1998 ROI constitution History of Ireland. - 8 years ago
Culturally:
As a NI person who has lived elsewhere I have learned:
You cannot go into a butchers and ask for some Vegetable Roll without getting funny looks (It's actually meat!)
You cannot go into a chippy and ask for a chip without getting funny looks (They call them a portion of chips elsewhere! The horrors!) I was once told in Newcastle UK that 'We don't sell them individually'
No one else knows what Veda is.
NOBODY knows what a pastie bap is. I don't often eat them, but I never missed it until I knew I couldn't have one.
No one else knows what an eejit Julian Simmonds is.
- 8 years ago
um its funny hw countires have a north and south and its completel different.
from what I've observed so far every country , the north is like communism and the south not.
or the north is liberals and commies same thing.
the south more land lovers and rebels so to say or down to earth types.
Source(s): brazil, china, korea, germany, the usa, ireland. not sure abut scotland yet!!