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Is the sky really falling?

Senator Rand Paul hit the nail on the head recently by calling for "calling the bluff" on a lot of this nonsense with sequestration. First, let's get the details straight. Enough of the finger pointing on who started what, how we got here, why we are not getting out etc. etc. Every single family sitting around their kitchen tables putting together their monthly budgets (assuming people still do this), absolutely understand how disgusting our government has become at managing our finances. You would, and frankly could NEVER run your own budget in the same fashion. Having said that, this ordeal was put into place by the administration, from Jack Lew, and his words to Senator Reid (paraphrasing) were; this is great and will force these guys (talking about republicans) to compromise, they will have to go along. Reid then put his head in his hands and in between his knees and explained to Lew that he just kicked his staff out of his office the past week for suggesting the same exact thing, then told Lew it was crazy! Bottom line; they actually did bring it to the floor and they voted on it. Republicans voted on it too, but in their naive defense, did so with the thought that hey, at least now we can get some spending cuts done. Foolish them, they should have known that this was all a gotcha game for the administration, and the end state for them was to blame anything negative on them and then play on the fears of the American people. So there were some good intended people involved, and there were also some disgusting people involved. You decide who you think had the ridiculous self-interest motive for yourself.

Secondly, now that we are here let's really discuss what is about to happen. A ten year spending slow plan? Are you freaking serious? Seriously! Imagine you are at your house working through your budget. You see that you have 50K in credit card debt, a 200K dollar mortgage and about 25K or so in other debt. You make 50K a year. YOU ARE DROWNING!!!!!!!!! Would you think to yourself....self, I can keep spending the same amounts of money just not as often? If so you are an idiot, and you should run for office or president, because that is exactly what these morons think. Your hole (debt) is much larger than your shovel (income) and unless you are willing to go out and get a bigger shovel, a second or third shovel AT THE SAME TIME that you STOP spending on certain things, you are forever going to be in this mess. Period, end of statement, you cannot argue it any which way you try. Unless of course you say.....what if I just go over to my neighbor's house and steal their shovel, or at least force them to come over and use their shovel to help me dig out of my hole, but make them understand that I am going to keep digging the hole while they help with their shovel to get me out? Again, if you agree with this logic you should absolutely run for congress or president.

Lastly, I am not going to shy away from the fact that the government needs to be trimmed of fat....lard to be exact. Where to do it is the bigger argument obviously. Defense? Sure, but how much do you want to cut when there are more threats today than yesterday? And save the "if Bush wouldn't have started it crap." You didn't have an issue with Clinton and Kosovo so shut it.

Entitlements consume the second largest portion of the budget, and no doubt this administration has allowed....ALLOWED it to go even deeper. The 47% comment from Romney? He was "100%" correct when he said it, at least a good portion of it anyhow. There are in fact roughly 47% of Americans living on some type of dependency, you cannot argue that. How they vote however, that is debatable. I don't have the specifics, but living in the metro-Detroit area I can tell you that nearly every one of those 47% here are voting liberally, no doubt. Those figures obviously change in the south, I don't doubt that.

At the end of the day, where do we go from here? Are we going to start electing officials that actually go and cut spending, all spending, even though it hurts? And are we going to start calling the bluff of these idiots who are playing on all of our fears with this "sky is falling" crap? Especially when the carni barkers that started the plan in the first place are the biggest morons of them all?

IS the sky falling? Or have you just now figured out that no matter who is in office and no matter what they promise or don't promise, you are the one that controls your own life, so get over it already? Go get a freaking job and start being a productive citizen.

Update:

And Rick and the Minority Report have obviously contributed to a solution. Typical of liberals and low information voters though, honestly. It really is hard to actually try to contribute something eh? But when you are on the side of takers vs. makers, it is completely understandable. 4 More Years.....4 More Years....4 More Years..... Funny thing is, even your paycheck was less under this administration. :) 4 More Years.......4 More Years.......

Update 2:

TM, I am not certain yet....just used him as an example, not an absolute.

To the other point of the "rant." It seems that most low informational or lazy voters are also low information and lazy people in general, not wanting to consume any extra time needed to actually dive into these divided issues, which goes right to my point of being a non-productive part to the solution. You'd rather just drive by with a single sentence or paragraph so that you feel better about yourself. You have contributed absolutely nothing. Surprise, surprise.

Update 3:

ICE, does that include the four consecutive years that republicans have passed a budget and submitted it to the senate all to have them not vote either way on it, or produce one of their own? Just curious if the vote blocking works both ways, and why does it work both ways? Does the seperate but equal branches of government based on the voters that sent them there bother you as much as it obviously does the president? It appears so.

Update 4:

Jehen,

I agree with the analogy of pruning the branch. The problem that I think we face is that the people that are actually out there giving the pruner the shears and food to keep the tree alive are absolutely sick and tired of watching only the branches being pruned. We know the tree has to go!

"Many wisely choose to take on added debt to tide them over - Even investing in things like education and training to better expand their options for future employment."

That my friend is an oxy... You are not choosing wisely at all to take on additional debt when you are stretched in any way shape or fashion, it is dumb. You cash roll it. Investing in the things that will make you more competitive is 100% a good idea, but not doing it on borrowed dollars and cents. Debt is dumb, cash is king.

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  • TMW
    Lv 5
    8 years ago
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    Good description of the state of things.

    Yes the sky is falling, when just don't know when. If the spending doesn't get under control we will see an economic collapse or something close. The Democrats are spending without any concern, the Republicans talk about spending cuts but don't seem to get much accomplished, then the Libertarians have some good ideas, but have no power. The congress is not serious about cutting anything... at best they might reduce the increases, but never actually cut. They spend to maintain their power and just try to delay dealing with this serious problem indefinitely. It looks like they will ride this horse over the cliff, and it's anybody's guess what will happen, or how bad it will be.

    In business when revenue drops we; stop almost all capital spending & travel, then freeze all salaries & cut bonuses, then start furloughs and possibly do a temporary pay cut for everyone (usually 10%). The government hasn't done anything to control spending. Now they are borrowing about 40% of what they spend. Plus the Fed/Treasury is "printing money", which has been the death of many countries economies (look at Germany, Zimbabwe, Chile, Peru, Argentina, and others further back in history).

    We're not on a good path. I hope the electorate will wise up and put people in office that will actually control spending and eventually rebuild the US economy. Unfortunately this may not happen until some version of a collapse happens, which will be painful.

  • jehen
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    No, the sky is not falling, but Sequestration is equivalent to pruning the branch while sitting on the part being pruned.

    Here is the thing. Any business does not immediately shed its work force and shutter operations as soon as it hits a rough patch. Prudence dictates operating in the red for a time insures the ability to come back strong and viable. Many businesses will choose to invest more during a slowdown to better prepare for changing markets when things turn around.

    It is the same for families. When a family loses a paycheck, they certainly tighten belts, but they don't pull the kids out of school, stop paying the mortgage or become instant deadbeats. Many wisely choose to take on added debt to tide them over - Even investing in things like education and training to better expand their options for future employment.

    So why it so hard to understand government debt in the face of an economic crisis? Not only that the economy is growing and spending is flat - meaning that our spending as a percentage of GDP is shrinking as is the deficit. Seems to me we need to be thinking of doing more of the same instead of wrecking things to suit the sensibilities of those that can't think this through.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    dude, I'm not going to read your unorganized rant... but to the question...

    a lot of people would be very upset if these cuts went through... particularly the elderly who depend on gov. services much more than most... and they vote conservative generally... (that's why cons are constantly saying "these are Obama's cuts")...

    but it wouldn't hurt most people that much, some inconveniences for sure... but hurt, no...

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Does that mean the republicans will finally do something besides block every bill that comes to vote?

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Yes, it's falling under the weight of your burdensome rant.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Yep. Republicans are delusional with reality.

  • wtinc
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Chicken little Obama says it is and according to the liberal media what ever he says is gospel.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    Look into the eyes of Rand Paul. I don't trust him....... just another snake.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    No but i almost fell down reading it all.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    Sequestration is trivial, but, in a larger sense, America is certainly dying. Thanks, liberals.

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