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? asked in Science & MathematicsPhysics · 8 years ago

Graviton vs. Higgs: concurrent or consistent?

Gravitons are usually described as gauge particles of the gravitational force. The Higgs boson is described as a particle (the Higgs field as a field) that "lends mass" to objects. Are these two concepts actually concurrent theories or hypotheses? Or are they consistent with each other and just two ways of looking at the same thing? I find both ideas to be a fundamentally different approach and don't know how they fit together.

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  • ?
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    8 years ago
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    Whether or not the graviton exists, the ideas are independent.

    There is an energy associated with the interaction of the Higgs field with a particle. That interaction manifests itself as rest mass thru Einstein's famous E=MC^2. This interaction does not require motion thru the Higg's field.

    In Einstein's General Relativity, there are a number of different sources of the gravitational field. They are mass (actually the energy equivalent), energy density of fields, momentum, pressure, and stress. The energy of the interaction of a particle with the Higgs, is just one of the sources of the gravitational field so obviously there is nothing special about the Higgs field with respect to gravity. For instance, the photon does not interact at all with the Higgs field but the energy density of the electromagnetic field is a source of gravity.

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    OldPilot - The equivalence principle does not mean that gravity and acceleration are the same thing. It means the acceleration from gravity is equivalent to other forms of acceleration. If all components of the Riemann tensor are zero, you are in flat space-time. If the components of the Riemann tensor are not 0 than you are in a gravitational field (curved space-time). Without considering gravitons, the Riemann tensor tells you whether you are in flat or curved space-time.

  • 8 years ago

    General relativity (warped spacetime) and quantum mechanics (Gravitons) give the same answers, except for a basic question. So, in general they are compatible.

    Basic question: Is gravity a force (graviton) or an acceleration (warped Spacetime ).

    Einstein's thought experiment: if you were in a room without windows with a scale or balance could you use the scale or balance ( or any other way or experiment) to determine if you were sitting on earth or accelerating through space at 9.8 m/s^2? Einstein said, "no." There is no difference between gravity and acceleration===> They are the same thing. The curvature of Spacetime is the slope of the acceleration gradient

    But, if Gravitons exist, the answer changes: in theory you could detect Gravitons and determine if you were accelerating or in a gravity force field

    Higgs Boson and the Higgs Field is a different concept: Why does mass resist acceleration? It is not the source of the acceleration but the response to a force or acceleration. What Higgs says is the Boson resists being accelerated through the Field. The source of the acceleration does not matter

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    It makes more sense for the energy of the space vacuum which is infinite to be pushing on the objects that are displacing it . The bigger the object the greater the push and the heavier that matter will weigh on this object because of this greater pressure. This explains both gravity and how matter has weight ( and varying weights on different sized planets ) No Graviton or Higgs Boson required - & makes perfect sense unless anyone could explain why not. Yes the vacuum of space still has energy and this must be immense when factoring in its immense vastness.

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