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Just how would UKIP deport all illegal immigrants?

There are thousands of illegal immigrants that are already deported from the UK, just how would UKIP deport them all? Firstly they've got to find them and then they have to know where to deport them to. The reason a vast amount aren't deported is because they get rid of their passports and so no one knows where they actually came from in the first place and you can't deport someone without definite proof of the actual country they are from.

Do they intend to lock them until they find out, which could be years, or is it just rhetoric to appease voters?

Update:

Ade, I totally agree and you have put the point across that I am trying to raise.

FOXY, you and others seem to think we can just put any illegal on a plane and ship them out, we cannot. If they do not have a passport then we cannot be absolutely certain where they come from, we cannot therefore deport them as countries would refuse to have them. Detention centres may sound good, but in practice, as Ade again has pointed out, they are very costly and where would you build them, also, how long would you lock them up for? If someone has gotten rid of their passport then even if they say where they are from, proof would be needed, otherwise they could say they were from somewhere they are not.

As for UKIP pulling us out of the EU, I thought they were going to give us a referendum on that, or have they changed their minds and decided that if in power they would just pull us out without giving the electorate a choice, that wouldn't be very democratic would it. You shouldn't assume

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  • 8 years ago
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    If you read the answers you can see there would appear to be a fair bit of difference between the UKIP supporters. The application of the ECoHR is not subject to just the EU members, (27) but all the members of the Council of Europe (47) countries with about 800 million people. Secondly if some one has no passport how would you know where to send them? Other Countries do not allow people in at a whim, just like if say the USA sent us someone they would need a British passport.

    Detention Centres could be built, where at what cost, each person held would cost about £500 per week, we could spend that money on other things. What objections would you get from residents when they were told detention centres would be built near their homes. It is all very well offering these policies but without the detail and cost you might as well promise the sun will shine every day.

  • 8 years ago

    Well, your anti-UKIP stance is well known on here, so it's up to you if you read and understand or not. Nobody can really say 'exactly' what will happen Mac, and probably they wouldn't ALL be caught either. But we have to make a start somewhere and DO SOMETHING! The levels of immigration that was allowed over the last 20 years are unsustainable, and i think even you know that! Even Farage would only say so much right now, and the finer details would need to be looked at nearer the time, IF UKIP ever get in that position. But, there are many things that 'could' be done, right now, and you know full well there is. Firstly, I personally believe that there are many good immigrants that do a great job in Britain. Immigration is necessary to a degree, and if we have 'skills' shortages, then those 'skills' have to be met somehow. It's the current 'type' of immigration and levels of it that I and many kippers are not happy with.

    For starters, UKIP would arrange Britain's withdrawal from the EU, and therefore EU personel would no longer have open doors access to the UK. UKIP then propose to introduce a work permit system like Australia and the USA currently do. Then, a 5 year postponement on all (or a least most) immigration would be declared, and the UK would then have a head count, 'possibly' (in my opinion) a full UK census again, only much more engaging and probing than the last one, backed up and cross checked against local govt info, benefits and welfare agencies ect. Those actions would take care of much of the new illegals currently coming here.

    Anyone caught coming here illegally could then be 'legally' deported back to where they came from. Any 'unusual' cases could be held in detention centres, locked up until their 'processing' took place, whence they'd be deported, unless they could clearly show they would be persecuted if returned, most 'economic migrating illegals' would find themselves deported. The ECofHR that ALL EU member states must sign up to would no longer be valid under UKIP, and holding centres that 'used' hold illegal immigrants by force, could now operate as they used to., because if we leave the EU, then we would no longer be 'forced' to apply the ECofHR laws, and we WOULD be able to deport immigrants that hate us, people like we had trouble getting rid of, like Abu Hamza and scores of others.

    Yes, any illegals currently already working in the black economy would be difficult to detect. I would hope that the existing police forces, Customs and exile people and immigration agencies would be beefed up and work together. These people would and rightly should be picked up as and when they can be, and put on a plane and sent home. I would hope that unscrupulous employers would be dealt with harsher than ever before, also investigated, charged, and their assets seized and businesses confiscated for hiring slave labour and as we know many are not even paying minimum wages. Many charges should be brought against them, and they should lose their licence to trade ever again. Currently, unscrupulous employers are allowed to just pay the fines and carry on regardless! That should stop, and much more robust laws need to be brought in.

    EDIT.... MAC! This is not a very good site to debate on unfortunately, and it's actually difficult to put finer pounts across without being embroiled in arguments. As I said, your opposition to UKIP is well noted on here. You obviously didn't read the answer properly, and the entire question was an apparent hook so that you could attack UKIP, nor did you take in even half of what I wrote, which makes me wonder why I ever even answer your Qs and As in the 1st place! Then you go on and ATTACK me about the referendum point. Point is, UKIP would give a referendum as was always promised (unlike the LibLabCON lot that lie and lie and lie about giving one), but I took it for granted in this Q that if UKIP ever got in then people would automatically vote for OUT, otherwise why would they bleeding vote for UKIP in the 1st place you clot? Thanks, but I shan't be answering you again, as you cannot (like all the others) seem to understand what UKIP wants, needs or desires. You are pretty typical frankly, of the reason why Kippers have had enough. One in five to one in four now voting for UKIP.... ;) LibLabCONs gonna die next year at the EU MEP elections. Can't wait.

  • John D
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    They would probably start by not allowing those that have been found to be illegal to slip back into the general population. If this means building large detention centres then so be it, many countries around the world have such facilities. The idiotic post about Brits being repatriated because of this shows the posters total lack of knowledge. Any Brit found to be living abroad illegally would be deported anyway, and there is no such thing as a European resident living in the UK doing so illegally.

    France were warned they couldn't deport illegal immigrants but they did, they were fined 500,000 Euros, how much has Hamza cost us? You call it rhetoric, I and many millions of others are glad that it is now open for proper discussion and not being branded a racist for wanting it to happen. The very same people that complain about these actions are equally vociferous about unemployment and the financial cuts we are going through. Can they not see that some of our problems are created by the massive influx of people heading here.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Deporting Illegal Immigrants Uk

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  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Nothing. They're encouraging them. It enables employers to save money by employing illegals who won't ask for rights like minimum wage and other things they're entitled to by law. I worked for a firm a year or so ago and there were loads of illegals from Pakistan working there. Noone ever said a thing about it. These people were not paying any tax or anything! But they were still using the NHS. Its a ******* joke!

  • what if we like taxed them so bad or did something that they would think it was so miserble here they would leave or go somewhere else.

    sorry for the spelling mistakes

  • ?
    Lv 6
    8 years ago

    The police find people all the time and because they hide or throw away their passports. They have too let them go. STOP LETTING THEM GO AND KICK THEM OUT!

    You might ask where if they have no pass port.

    Ok stick them on one of our islands with nothing but a tent and a sleeping bag with basic grub and no electricity NOTHING!. They'll soon get board, they'll be begging too go home.

    You could ramp up STOP SEARCH measures. Its no difficult what is, is the EU law stopping us from deporting people because they don't even want them.

  • liz
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    I think that's the "policy" of the EDL or BNP isn't it? I thought UKIP are mainly about setting limits, and curbing immigration for a long period, coming out of the EU and trying to trade more with I guess India, America, China, and non-Europeans.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    No matter what ukip or any other party do they will not solve the problem.

    When labour wanted to bring in id cards with fingerprints on they should have

    continued it and then added dna onto the id card.

    They could then have checked where anyone came from then checked if they

    were in the system and if they were receiving welfare of any kind, if they had

    committed any criminal acts and if they were employed.

    All these things could have been done and there was no reason to object

    if you had a clear conscience.

    Plus our bank accounts and social security and national insurance could not

    have been stolen.

    So I ask you why did the tories abandon it have they got something they wish

    to hide.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    I think its rhetoric to attract voters. It seems to be working. Illegal immigration is out of control and at least UKIP propose to do something about it. That's a good thing isn't it?

    If things go on the way they are the UK debt will continue to balloon out of control and eventually we will need to pay the cost. Immigration generates internal economic activity but does not earn foreign currency. Its useful to make the growth figures look less than disastrous but the reality is we are hooked on debt.The only reason UKIP exists is because it is the only party who are NOT pulling the wool over voters eyes.

    Put simply Illegal immigration and legal immigration make the figures look less worse but actually do not grow wealth they just rack up liability for the future.There is no real political will to change this in any main stream party.

    Marxism seeks to control the means of production

    Political Correctness is only slightly different in that it shrinks the means of production with tax and over regulation and then replaces the means of production with borrowing. UKIP feel this is a flawed strategy and any resulting Multicultural, Multi ethnic Utopia built on debt will be short lived.

    The road to hell is lined with good intentions is it not.

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