Behavior of kids and parents?

kids misbehave soully due to bad parenting .

nationality dosent coem into play here .

yes u notice more asians here because they r in majority .

so the chance of any misbehaving kid is asian is 80 % as per the law of probability .

it goes without saying the good ones are also in same proportion.

Actually I noticed what you said several times as well, and in general, noticed a lot of examples of poor upbringing, not only with Asians, but also with many other nationalities here. The thing is that often parents seem to find the behavior completely normal and therefore don't correct their children.

Examples such as in supermarket, kids screaming their head off until their parents buy them what they want, opening packaging and eating straight from it, and in general one thing that really disturbs me from both parents and children, is people making a mess behind them and not clearing up. The worst is when you go to public gardens or a nice beach, and the place is soiled from every one else's rubbish. How hard is it to pick up your stuff and throw it in a rubbish bin? I know, I know, people are paid to clean up this mess, but why do Arabs / Asians (sorry to mention nationalities but in this case I think it is justified) feel like they "put themselves down" by picking up their garbage? I've been going to Lulu Island several times (the island opposite Abu Dhabi Corniche) and every time we find a nice spot to barbecue, I spend at least 20mn just picking up other people's trash so that the place is not disgusting!

Also one thing that disturbs me a lot, is that parents tend to teach their own closed mindedness to their children. For example, anywhere in the world, a child will find a 4 month old puppy cute. Here, I have come across kids in my neighborhood, not more than 7 years old, shouting insults and beating up my dog with a stick when he was just a puppy and parents nearby not saying anything, or worse encouraging them. Seriously, what are people teaching their children?? I know some consider dogs 'haram' but to beat them up, in the street, just like that? A poor helpless animal???! For me that's just scary, because the way the parents teach the children is what they will continue to do to their own children and the more people like that you have, the worse the world will get.

However, although I have seen a lot of examples of bad upbringing around the world, and with all nationalities (including westerners) - especially spoiling children by giving them too many material things, the thing I noticed in the UAE is that kids seem to be really judgmental here.

And yes, the way you educate your children is up to you, nobody should tell others what is best but, teaching your children to be civil and respect other people, regardless of their nationality, their belief or other things is just so important and it kind of makes me sad to see that in this country, so many children, so young, are already judgmental and hateful.

I've never seen the same but if I remember right, Word of Mouth mentioned the same one day also. In his case it was a boy opening packages (if I remember correctly:).

What I just noticed behavior wise is that many Indian ladies like to leave their shopping cart standing right in the middle of the way and they have problems waiting in line at the veggie section. I do not keep my mouth shut when I see anything not being right. No security needed. Beside this, I've never seen security personel working inside the supermarket, see them are at the gates only.

I agree, also I would consider it stealing when grabbing food without paying for it. Simply poor upbringing.

@Nazia: Dutch just noticed some behavior problems of Asian kids in an UAE Hypermarket. What that got to do with kids in the USA? He just stated what he noticed in the UAE. Living as a foreigner in his home country you may be wondering and asking why so many people like to ride a bike:)

@Nazia: nobody ever said that there aren't well mannerd Asian kids (I know some myself) or some Dutch kids acting up.

Also not all Emirati kids are raised up by maids.

You want to share a real experience? I can do the same: a friend of mine (European) stayed in a hotel while visiting Abu Dhabi. When taking back a cab the Pakistani driver wanted to be taking to her room instead of her paying the fare.

I was involved in a car accident during Ramadan a couple years ago. It was the Pakistani cab driver's fault. After going praying he still insisted that I run into him instead vs. After police looked at our damages (which spoke on a own) the Pakistanis found hiself in hot waters.

Bottom line you can find good and bad ones in every country regadless of nationality. Once you said: when in Rome do as Romans do, I fully agree with you on that but think that many foreigners in the UAE (no matter what nationality) don't so. That most of them are Indians, Pakistanis, Bengladeshis, etc is just because they are the majority of foreign workers here. That's it.

You also should take into consideration the views of Westernes living in the UAE trying to fit in and experience the behavior of the majority on none locals.

Some Westerners who take jobs in the UAE may get familiar with local customs in advance to find out that they have been better getting familiar with how to deal with Asians from the Subcontinent.

Well if the supermarket washes its hand off the matter regarding damage to their products, what do you expect customers to do?

If they would be only a little more stricter about-name and shame them (in a gentle manner) , it would set an example pour otres .In our culture shaming usually does the trick

I dont bother with such things myself. I long time ago learnt to pick my battles carefully. I dont even get involved when men are being a bit rough with their wives in public unless it gets to a criminal degree

It may seem callous but trust me, unless it does not involve your personally dont make it a crusade, there is no upside to it.

Eventually it will hurt the respective party enough that he/she/it will take the appropriate action

I saw same several times , not only food but also drinks & parents intentionally letting their kids loose in malls & shopping places as if they are not responsible. Twice I was hit (bumped) by such kids , one time an Indian/Paki (I don't know for sure) was running really fast & licking some red lollipop he was eating off the shelf crashed into my frontside as he was not looking where he was running but looking back. That is not the problem , but the red stain his lollipop left on my clothing was very embarrassing to me as I had to go home and change because of this stain. Another time similar situation kid running with an ice cream bar also leaving stains. A 3rd time the parents of this kid were letting him push the shopping cart (which was taller than him) and he pushed the iron wheel over my foot as I was wearing sandals it was a very painful accident. I mean it it OK to teach your kids about shopping but not when they are still young like that and injuring other customers.

Basically these types of parents think the mall of hypermarket is a public amusement park (their Free-Ferraiworld !) they can let their crazy kids roam in without supervision & use shopping carts & crash into unsuspecting customers for bumper cars ride. And the Playstation / Xbox display serves as their free Arcade machine ; then if the kids don't like the "free" game in the supermarket they start screaming at the salesman who is also from their nationality to put in another game they did not pay for. One time I saw a kid breaking a game controller by repeatedly slamming it on the floor, it broke into pieces, then he left and security did not do any thing.

The incident H was referring , it was my post here

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmnNb...

I saw real American kids saying " I will f..k you mom or I will f..k you dad if they do not get a piece of cake from them and getting restless." At least Pakistani or Indian kids do not use that "f..k" language in front of their parents. Human nature is the same, you start generalizing about the whole nation (about parents from South Asia) based on a handful negative examples. At least when Pakistani or Indian kids are eating something and if they are accompanying with some elders before eating something they ask them if they want to eat it as well. About western kids , it is all about myself, "me eating it myself, all by myself, I want to EAT it all and will get my BUTT bigger than my STOMACH".

Let me spend some time with your kids alone and I will be coming up with lots of potholes in your upbringing as well. You know , as the saying goes "we all cut from the same cloth" but the thing is, we notice shortcomings of others quickly and ignore ours altogether. You know, the same old complex issues "we are the best" and "the rest is s.h.i.t".

edit: @H----

I am also wondering why "Arab kids are raised by some MAIDS rather than REAL MOMS in the UAE"?

@Dutch --- Are all kids in Holland perfect? They never break laws. They never steal.

I just mentioned "American kids" as an example of like bad parenting can happen in any country and with any family. Generalizing about things is absolutely wrong....so this below statement from his end is wrong

[[[[Let me mention that that behavior I only see at [probably] Pakistani or Indian expats and that I only give the ....]]]]

edit: since we are talking about an incident in a hypemarket in the UAE. Let me quote a real incident on the Dubai subway train when I was there in person. The train was full with passengers, no empty seats. Some aged western guys got on the train from work in the evening and they were standing and looking tired. No Arab or No western looking person left the seat for them only "bad parenting Asian kids from subcontinent " had left the seat for them. If it is bad parenting then I will hell take it over any good parenting in the rich countries. I have rest my case.

edit:@H--- Have you read about a PAKISTANI DRIVER who was awarded a medal by govt of UAE for his honesty because he had handed over a suitcase full of cash and valuables of an Arab businessman? You know, he was also parented by the same c.r.a.p.p.y parents that Dutch in Expat was talking about.

South Asians do not want to blend in the UAE because of discriminatory rules and regulations meted out towards them and they are there on a contract basis with no future security. Look at American-Pakistanis, American-Indians for example, they have fit in the American culture and system really well because their future is in secure hands. You know, they speak English well. they pay taxes. They contribute to American economy. etc ..Their kids get free education. Once things will start to get better in the UAE for South Asians they will also start believing in "Roman philosophy".