Why do Jews & Christians pick and choose which parts of the Bible apply?

This is a great question.

The Old Testament Laws are under the mosaic law system, which includes sacrificing animals etc. Christians are not under the Mosaic law. People were unable to be saved by following the Mosaic Law, this is why it too Christ's death to fulfill the requirements of the law. We are saved by grace, not by works. The Israelites were to be distinguished as a holy nation, this is why they killed people to purge the evil from their midst. Today Christians do not separate themselves as a nation, but exist as lambs among wolves.

However, faith in Christ demands that we turn from sin. Homosexuality is sinfull and is so classified in the new testament as well as the old. However, It is important to recognize that gossip, lying, slander, adultery, etc. are just as must sin as homo sexuality, Homosexuality is no worse. We are all sinners (including Christians) and fall short of the Glory of God. However, it is important that when we sin we repent and turn from the sin. In this way, we show that Christ is Lord. What fellowship should light have with darkness.

I could resist but I don't think it would be right, to resist call you an immoral stupid clod. For the very fact that something is Bible is an act of authority. Those passages were all in non-Biblical books but were part of the teaching and day-to-day life of the followers of Moses. The abomination of homosexuality existed for CENTURIES before it shows up in any 'Bible'. Just as you would point to sources not condemning homosexuality (and make that your 'Bible') so too when you argue from the Bible you are already deciding about authority.

But Socrates acted on reason alone when he called homosexuality disgusting and immoral:

SOCRATES: And here, Callicles, I would have you consider how you would reply if consequences are pressed upon you, especially if in the last resort you are asked, whether the life of a catamite is not terrible, foul, miserable? Or would you venture to say, that they too are happy, if they only get enough of what they want?

CALLICLES: Are you not ashamed, Socrates, of introducing such topics into the argument?

SOCRATES: Well, my fine friend, but am I the introducer of these topics, or he who says without any qualification that all who feel pleasure in whatever manner are happy, and who admits of no distinction between good and bad pleasures? And I would still ask, whether you say that pleasure and good are the same, or whether there is some pleasure which is not a good?

CALLICLES: Well, then, for the sake of consistency, I will say that they are the same.

SOCRATES: You are breaking the original agreement, Callicles, and will no longer be a satisfactory companion in the search after truth, if you say what is contrary to your real opinion.

CALLICLES: Why, that is what you are doing too, Socrates.

SOCRATES: Then we are both doing wrong. Still, my dear friend, I would ask you to consider whether pleasure, from whatever source derived, is the good; for, if this be true, then the disagreeable consequences which have been darkly intimated must follow, and many others.

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Reason should tell you

You might want to check out the following. MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO

By Paul Cameron, Ph.D.

Dr. Cameron is Chariman of the Family Research Institute of Colorado Springs, Colorado USA.

Accept for the verse you quoted in Timothy, all your quotes are from the law of Moses. I don't know about Jews and Muslims, but for a Christian, these laws do not apply.

Now wait.

First and foremost, Jesus said He came to fulfill the law. (Matthew 5:17) The law was fulfilled on the Cross.

The Books of Galatians, Hebrews, and Romans make this abundantly clear. Hebrews chapter 10 for instance.

Some Christians who have not been taught well by their pastors, will quote the law to condemn same sex relations. This is unnecessary as the New Testament does it for us. (Romans 1, Jude 1, etc)

The law was fulfilled and we don't follow it (Romans 10:4)

The rest of the Old Testament was written for our learning. (Romans 15:4)

Spinelli: Your using half scripture & combining it with the Quran & other things, and your combining old testament with New. This is Yahoo, so space is limited. I can't write 23 Pgs. here. So here's the basic drift.

Lev. 18:22- 20:13. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. If a man lies with a male as with a woman both of them have committed an Abomination. they shall be put to death . There blood is upon them.

--What that is referencing is Damnation & its their/your, fault & choice.

Gen. 19:13 - Ezek. 16:50 - Lev. 18:22-20:13 - 1 Cor. 6:9-10 - Rom. 1:26-28-32.

This covers women also "Then woman exchanged natural relations for unnatural "

and those who support this evil,-- Rom 1:26-28-32 " They not only do them, but Approve, those who practice them "- St. Paul warns very clearly throughput Scripture about homosexuality and what will befall all those who participate.

Spelled out pretty clearly

Old testament, Torah old Jewish law. Law of Moses was given by God as a "second chance" as it were. It's very hard for Modern man to conceptualize life in that time. It was brutal & hard. OUR mindsets & thought process's have changed. If you were to go back in time to that era your chances of survival are extremely low. Your mind cant operate at that level any more.

In extreme brief.

Genesis. WE, broke the law of God initially, Moses was given the task to save the Jewish people, & reapply Gods law.

Then Christ came to us as a third opportunity. Christ's coming was Gods Second covenant with us so that all of us wont be damned, which at that time we were .

Try to look at it as Christ was the second " Adam"

The Holy mother Mary as the second " Eve", though not as a wife but as a mother to all of us. There sacrifice was for us, so that as a people we wont be lost.

Here's the Rub, even now the majority of us Christians included, will not go instantly to Heaven. We have to be held in account for our life & our deeds, every utterance, every action, every deed. penance ( restitution if you will) have to be made if you follow the original teachings of Christ (Jewish /Christian movement under St. Peter leadership )

-John 21:15-17 & Matthew 16:17-20-

Which is now called the catholic Faith almost all of us will go into purgatory, kinda like a cleaning up place before we go before God. penance can be made for most things right here on earth through prayer & sacrifice.

Id luv to list ton of Scripture with explanation but I found that doesn't work here.

So maybe a class in Theology, or/and Bible class or RICA class in the Catholic faith may help you.

The choice is yours, the path is yours. Christ said " Go through the narrow gate."

Be well.

Being gay is not a in. The Bible does not condemn loving, committed same-gender relationships.

This video dismantles every Bible-based argument against homosexuality:

http://www.matthewvines.com/transcript

http://www.gaychristian.net/justins_view.php

http://www.notalllikethat.org/

One thing that is seamless in both OT and the NT is that sin has not been redefined.The law of Moses was given to Israelites to govern them as a chosen people for God.

This is a difficult subject to be explained here you can start by reading Romans and Hebrews,which give explanations our relationship with the law of Moses as Christians.In the NT also homosexuality is a sin as well.

1 Corinthians 6:9 King James Bible

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Pray for wisdom which only comes through the Holy Spirit by faith in Jesus Christ.

Because so many of them are false. God is love and justice. Any teaching unloving or unjust never came from God. It came from dishonest scribes as Jeremiah clearly states. There is no mystery. We all know what is right and loving.

The moral code is summed up in ten commands.The 66 diverse books of the bible cover a very wide sweep of history and cultural change.Today we see the direction our society is taking by ignoring or opposing the Perfect natural design of man and woman. Every one of us is corrupted into compromising the family by marital confusion and therefore inviting desease and psychological schisms. We deviate from Gods holy laws at our peril. All homosexual societies destroy themselves and get taken over by stronger nations.

Simple: follow the way prepared for you. "I AM the Way, the Truth and the Love; no one comes to the Father BUT through me." When in doubt, follow Him.

Every case you mentioned, when seen with His Light, He also showed a Way to navigate yout decision making process.

I believe those who sin pay the price in the here and now.

(cigarette smokers get lung cancer. . Many of the Rock

stars who were on drugs, died of drug use early in life. At the

onset of homosexual activities came the disease Aids.) Jesus

told of the importance of loving God with all your heart, all

your soul; and loving your neighbor as yourself. We need to

think on those things. The repercussions of sinful activities

will manify itself, as I've stated, without Christians and others

picking and choosing Bible scriptures to argue about.