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Christians, why do you still adhere to this nonsense?
1. Your God has never appeared to any credible person or group of people, and his existence has never been verified.
2. No miracles or supernatural events have ever been recorded by any credible sources.
3. There is no evidence that praying to your God is a quantifiable or applicable process to real world application.
4. Belief promises a reward and non-belief promises a penalty, but the veracity of either claim is completely unsubstantiated.
5. The Bible makes unsupported claims about the history of our origins and describes events or questionable historicity, all whilst being uncorroborated of divine origins.
6. Regular meetings are taken place at a Church to reinforce your beliefs, yet a person of authority is presented to interpret scripture on your behalf, since his holiness has yet to make a divine appearance. Money will also be collected at the end.
7. Despite the facts above, you refuse to cast a shadow of a doubt on your beliefs, and still attest to the assumption that God definitely exists and refuse to suspend judgment like any other rational person.
This is a bit absurd Christians, get your stuff together.
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- 7 years agoFavorite Answer
Baloney ! their is massive evidence from many Credible people just none that you will accept because of your bias presupposition, You know, atheism. There are no "proofs" that God does not exist in atheist circles; at least, none that I have heard -- especially since you can't prove a negative regarding the existence of God. Of course, that isn't to say that atheists haven't attempted to offer some proofs that God does not exist. But their attempted proofs are invariably insufficient. After all, how do you prove there is no God in the universe? How do you prove that in all places and all times, there is no God? You can't. Besides, if there was proof of God's non-existence, then atheists would be continually using it. But we don't hear of any such commonly held proof supporting atheism or denying the existence of God. The atheist position is very difficult, if not impossible, to prove since it is an attempt to prove a negative. Therefore, since there are no proofs for atheism's truth, and there are no proofs that there is no God, the atheist must hold his position by faith.
Faith, however, is not something atheists like to claim as the basis of adhering to atheism. Therefore, atheists must go on the attack and negate any evidences presented for God's existence in order to give intellectual credence to their position. If they can create an evidential vacuum in which no theistic argument can survive, their position can be seen as more intellectually viable. It is in the negation of theistic proofs and evidences that atheism brings its self-justification to self-proclaimed life.
There is, however, only one way that atheism is intellectually defensible, and that is in the abstract realm of simple possibility. In other words, the atheist would have to propose that it may be possible that there is no God.1 But stating that something is possible doesn't mean that it is a reality, or that it is wise to adopt the position. If I said it is possible that there is an ice cream factory on Jupiter, does that make it intellectually defensible or a position worth adopting merely because it is a possibility? Not at all. Simply claiming a possibility based on nothing more than it being a possible option, no matter how remote, is not sufficient grounds for atheists to claim viability in their atheism. They must come up with more than "It is possible," or "There is no evidence for God," otherwise, there really must be an ice cream factory on Jupiter, and the atheist should step up on the band wagon and start defending the position that Jupiterian ice cream exists.
At least we Christians have evidences for God's existence, such as fulfilled biblical prophecy, Jesus' resurrection, the Transcendental Argument, the entropy problem, etc.
There is another problem for atheists. Refuting evidences for the existence of God does not prove atheism true anymore than refuting an eyewitness testimony of a marriage denies the reality of the marriage. Since atheism cannot be proven, and since disproving evidences for God does not prove there is no God, atheists have a position that is intellectually indefensible. At best, atheists can only say there are no convincing evidences for God that have been presented so far. They cannot say there are no evidences for God, because the atheist cannot know all evidences that possibly exist in the world. At best, the atheist can only say that the evidence presented so far has been insufficient. This logically means that there could be evidences presented in the future that will suffice. The atheist must acknowledge that there may indeed be a proof that has been undiscovered, and that the existence of God is possible. This would make the atheist more of an agnostic since at best the atheist can only be skeptical of God's existence.
This is why atheists need to attack Christianity. It is because Christianity makes very high claims concerning God's existence, which challenges their atheism and pokes holes in their vacuum. They like the vacuum. They like having the universe with only one god in it: themselves.
Source(s): TR - Anonymous7 years ago
1 and 2: Personal incredulity and equivocation fallacies:
1. Of course any person who asserts seeing or interacting with God by your own standards is automatically deemed not credible so you are really saying nothing ..
2. Same basic principle as #1 above.
3. Argument from ignorance...
4. Red herring.
5. Argument from ignorance
6. Actually I have not been to any church in more than 20 years.. so much for your assertion.
7. You have no idea what goes on in my mind...
What I find absurd is you think logical fallacies constitute meaningful arguments... Additionally I find the notion of a shape shifting amoeba's just popping into existence, a frog turning into a prince and invisible fairies thumbing their nose at gravity and pushing galaxies around to border on the insane. The difference is I don't hold such nonsensical beliefs while at the same time calling other peoples beliefs into question.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
1 and 2 depend entirely on a subjective notion of who's credible.
3 is irrelevant. If prayer only changes the person praying, it is still an effective activity.
4. Belief provides effective rewards immediately: it is useful to adopt working assumptions to deal with cases in which proof is unavailable. Belief is an effective strategy for approaching life. [I don't give any particular credit to notions of a "penalty" for non-belief, so that assertion doesn't apply to me.]
5. I don't think the Bible IS of divine origin. It's the "word of God" in that it's a collection of writings ("word") from a thousand years or so of discussion about a wide variety of subjects, but centered on a particular notion of a deity ("of God") and the development of the implications of that notion. It's more of an argument than a manifesto, and shows extensive changes in the notions of God represented from widely varying periods. I don't worship collections of software.
6. The fact that people meet to discuss and share ideas is hardly discrediting.
7. On the contrary, I consider doubt to be one of the most important factors in learning, and strongly encourage it.
Basically, you call what we do "nonsense" because you don't know jack about it.
- Old Man DirtLv 77 years ago
It works!
There is no other explanation that will hold up for the existence of Israel as a nation to mention one reason.
Now if it did not work there would be nothing to talk about and Christianity would never have lasted this long.
Just get over it an move on!
You have no complaint worth considering!
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- 7 years ago
All these religious books contradicts itself its total crap that being said God does exist, religion doesn't, i don't have to prove nothing to anyone that God exist. We know God exist all of us, But i have been on both side of the fence, I have browsed through religion and not believing in anything then one day i realized no one came to talk about religion... but you cant force God on everyone, so much love to all we are all humans no one is perfect Good Luck :)
- 2 ShepherdsLv 77 years ago
Oh, Brian, you are so deceived. Less than two months ago, God restored my hearing. Prior to that, I lived with a 60 decibel loss. I was sitting quietly when it happened. Oh, and medical pros have said through the years that my kind of loss (nerve deafness) can't be restored.
Don't think you know it all, for you surely don't.
- 7 years ago
Might be worth you doing some research before making such pronouncements. It's easy to think that because we haven't heard of such a thing, it isn't true. But people are lazy and don't take time to investigate. There's more than enough evidence for those who do the basic research.
- PamelaLv 77 years ago
I don't need verified human science data to tell me God is real and lives in my heart- works in my life and will take me home to be with Him forever:)
Science is for measuring the physical things of this world and has no ability or desire to quantify its Designer. We must look elsewhere for Him:)
He is willing and able to make Himself known to any and all who wish to.
Science is not the answer to everyhing:)
I think you already know that.
- .Lv 77 years ago
In other words, you don't believe the evidence because you don't believe the evidence. That is a circular reasoning fail. Ask and you shall receive, but with a pure heart. Your heart of stone cannot accept the things of the Spirit.
- 7 years ago
God has revealed Himself via the Holy Spirit to me and many others. There is nothing you or anyone or anything can do to change that. Sorry you are lost. Hope you see what we have seen one day.