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Why does the UK still stand for a TV liecence fee?
I can't understand why people still have to pay a TV licence by law, I mean how can this fee even still hold up in a court of law.
So to put it simply it appears that the most (if not all) the fee goes to the BBC for TV and Radio as the BBC has no advertisements and it is supposed to be "quality TV". So if you do not pay for it you get intimidating letters about how you will get fined and taken to court and fined up to £1000.
So I ask this,
Did the viewer ask for the BBC? No, I don't think so and even if they did agree to the BBC I am sure if they love the company that much that they would be more than willing to pay £145.50 per year for it. roughly £12.12 per month.
Now I can understand why they may have had to force users to pay before the digital switch over as anyone with an aerial could receive an analogue signal. But with digital we have advanced technology wow that's right folks (well not that advanced its been around a while) the BBC could simply block these channels out (something like top up TV or sky) and give you a choice to subscribe to their services at £12.12 per month.
So my argument seems to be solid except for maybe the radio stations we get over the air which is still an analogue signal. But lets face it there is no way that it is worth £145.50 per year and should be about quarter of that at £36 for year or just add advertisements to cover the costs.
I mean I never watch Freesat or Digital, instead I watch Netflix. No contract £6.00 per month and lets face it if anyone tells me that the BBC offers better content than Netflix is seriously mistaken at £72 per year half the price of a TV licence, I suppose that it could be argued that you have internet on top of that but that is not the point the internet is my choice I pay for it as it is needed. Just like I would be happy to pay for the TV Licence if it was needed, but its not.
So I think that the biggest criminal is the BBC who penalise the poor because it if you are rich or living comfortably chances are you are probably not going to complain just for an easy life.
The reason why I have attached this to Law is because rather than every other pissed off consumer that does not want to pay £145.50 a year for a licence just saying they agree in some way or another. It would be interesting to have a professional take on there answer or reasoning.
@ WRG, that makes sense but did the MPs put this to a public vote? If they did I take back everything I say as these charges must be very popular with the public or is it that they need so many people to complain to look into taking action to put this forward to public vote. Because the vote would be like a landslide coming down on top of the BBC.
Though its also is very strange that there is not more people challenging this, could this maybe be due to the fact that if you miss your payments you get letters about being fined up to £1000, or could it be the fact that most people have lives to live and they have to work, kids and do not have time to stand out and protest for the value of £145.50 so I guess in terms of loss of earnings and having the time to promote the idea to get a few thousand/s on bored to challenge it so it really does not seem like an option.
Maybe an unofficial survey would be the answer to post out about 100, 000 letters and ask the public to send it straight b
End got cut off but 3.8 million visits is justification enough that its wrong
How many visits by enquiry officers have been carried out as a result of:
- the use of detector vans
- information from retailers about people buying television sets
- information held by TV Licensing about licences that haven’t been renewed
- any other method TV Licensing uses to determine that a visit should be made.
The information requested here was exempt from disclosure under section 31 of the FOI Act. TV Licensing enquiry officers made 3.8 million visits in 2008/09 and 3.5 million visits in 2007/08.
And check isitme luxury item, what so now people with less money are under you they do not deserve to watch Netflix or have the internet. Hey turn every single TV channel off for all I care they crap. I use consoles to game and Netflix and American based company to watch TV.
Its surprising the amount who disagree and think that I am ignorant (I guess you could call the above a rant but I am just stating facts but and they still remain and can't be disputed regardless of what anyone says (not so sure about other countries).
You purchase a TV you must licence it - though the fact remains (which is not incorrect) that they have stopped broadcasting TV channels in analogue (in the UK at least I don't need to know the laws in any other country I do not plan to live in them that's why the above is question is referenced UK) and we now live in the digital age They have the technology to block these channels and make them a service you have to subscribe to just like sky and pay per view etc. And to reference advertisements being viewed as vulgar years ago is no reason why we should pay these days. I can understand why gambling needs to be licenced as it could be subject to abuse e.g. criminal activity / underground gambling and people kill over money
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- ?Lv 77 years agoFavorite Answer
I did not read all the (probably) ignorant and incorrect rant above.
Suffice to say that the UK is NOT the only country that requires a TV license.
Most european countries require a tv license
as do Israel, Japan, Korea, Pakistan, S. Africa and others.
- JonLv 77 years ago
You appear to be confusing two different points.
- the legality of the TV licence.
- the reasons why it exists.
Re. legality the TV licence exists under the Broadcasting Act and has a clear legal foundation. Using hyperbole like "biggest criminal is the BBC" simply suggests that everything else you write may be equally silly.
Concerning it as policy, if TV was to suddenly appear today a different system might well be adopted. The TV licence, as you write, goes back to the 1940's when both TV technology and British culture were quite different.
In the 1940's betting shops, casinos, and lotteries were all illegal in Britain, plays had to be licenced before they could be performed, topless 'page 3' type pictures were illegal, the sex scenes in many modern paperback novels would have lead to prosecution for obsenity, and outside London most pubs were required to close by 10:30p.m. All these were widely supported by the public at the time. In that cultural context, there was a widespread view that advertising on TV was vulgar and might lead to crass commercialism undermining British and Christian values.
It was decided that there would be no commercial (advertising-funded) TV in Britain, and instead there would be the BBC, funded by a tax on TV sets (the TV licence). That remained the case until 1955 when commercial TV was introduced. However it was not universally welcomed: many viewers, particularly parents were suspicious of advertising and remained mainly BBC viewers for years.
At the time, BBC programme schedules were published in advance in the Radio Times magazine only, and ITV schedules were published only in the TV Times magazine. Under copyright rules at the time, no-one else could publish them in advance, although newspapers could print that day's TV schedules for all channels, as that then counted as current news (which was not copyright). So most people either bought the Radio Times and mainly watched BBC or the TV Times and mainly watched ITV. It was only in the late 1980's that the modern range of TV listings magazines, listing both BBC and ITV, appeared.
Perhaps the TV licence is no longer the best option, but as it has been around so long getting rid of it brings up the dispute over what to do instead. It seems to me that there is no consensus on a replacement system (e.g. some people want a US style mainly commercial system, others inc. some vocal parents groups worried about adverts affecting kids, want to safeguard the concept of an advert-free BBC as the 'flagship' channel). The current system will stay (for no better reason than that it is the current one) until there is a firm agreement over what to do instead.
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- JOHN GLv 77 years ago
If you look up TV licensing you will see that most countries in Europe have them , its not just the UK, The BBC were discussing the possibility of issuing encryption cards and boxes so if you don't pay the licence fee you don't get any BBC TV or radio stations which seems fair to me..they would also be blocked to Sky & cable customers unless they pay extra..
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- 6 years ago
Eastenders alone drains tens of millions of pounds a year from the license fee. Surely that alone is reason to ditch the BBC? Any dramas they produce can make their costs out of DVD sales and syndication. Only a small percentage of what they produce is actually worth watching. Far too much of it is utter tripe.
- WRGLv 77 years ago
You live in a country with a representative, democratically elected government. Those members of the elected parliament decided that the people wanted to pay for the BBC TV via a tax on the TVs and put in place laws and taxes to do that.
Since I've not heard of a mass uprising from the people of the UK to do away with this system the MPs probably haven't either. You are free to try and start that uprising yourself.
Goog luck
- Sweet PeaLv 77 years ago
A well put together question an I totally agree with you. It's time the licence fee was abolished along with the BBC. Everything they report is biased. I stopped watching their News a long time ago. The "top brass" at the BBC are living a life of luxury thanks to the people forced to pay the licence fee.
- ?Lv 77 years ago
I agree, especially now that the BBC is basically the government's pet poodle. They no longer do 'real' journalism, they just report the official line, and that is NOT the same thing.
Look at the Irag war. The BBC backed the government's lies to the hilt with their completely uncritical broadcasting and, when one BBC journalist asked questions, he was persecuted for it.
@ Cephalopod. Oh really come on, "It was the BBC who found out about jimmy saville it anyone else!! ". Really? I don't think so. It was the BBC who helped covered up Saville's disgusting activities for decades, many of which took place on its premises.
I do know about Andrew Gilligan, and David Kelly. My point is that the BBC had previously supported the Iraq war by supporting Blair and Campbell's lies, uncritically, long enough to get the country into an illegal war. When Gilligan turned up what happened, he had massive problems as a result.
Also, what is the BBC doing now? I for one do not see any dissent or strong questioning of the official government line on anything. Do you?
- UN Agenda 21Lv 67 years ago
What people are paying for is a BBC License (it is not a TV license this is Orwellian propaganda) The British public are probably the most cowardly people in the world and they are terrified of the government. They have the same fear of government as the people of North Korea perhaps even more so. Britain is not a free country nor a democracy (democracies would ask the public for their views on things like the BBC license) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...
There is no such thing as a court of law in Britain, they are all corrupt to the core and controlled by the EU. British common law was replaced by EU corpus Juris making the Government (and BBC) above the law.
The BBC is a criminal Orwellian propaganda outlet which is also controlled by the communist European Union. Marxist fake charity Common Purpose has 400 staff inside the BBC censoring out anti-EU news and current affairs.
The BBC have been caught using fake war footage and deceitful reporting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Iran and they have been using other propaganda methods to promote war to their gormless viewers. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/...
The BBC has been protecting paedophiles within their own organization and in Westminster for decades. Esther Rantzen knew that Jimmy Saville was a paedophile but kept it a secret for 30-40 years making her an accomplice. She now has the cheek to claim to be protecting children and is head of Childline.
- Ted CLv 67 years ago
The government taxes you to watch TV programmes, any TV wherever they come from, be it UK, French or Australian programmes - the choice is yours . Similary the government taxes your car, whether you drive ten miles or a thousand miles a week - you pay the same no matter what you watch or how far you drive. This is how the government gets money to pay for other things - they do not necessarily spend it on the BBC or on the repair and construction of roads, it's one method of taxation.