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Karen asked in PetsHorses · 7 years ago

Harder than a regular snaffle, softer than a kimberwicke?

I'm trying to find a bit that's harder than a regular snaffle (full cheek, egg butt, d-ring, loose ring, rubber), but softer than a kimberwicke.

My mare doesn't listen in a regular snaffle. I've had a rubber snaffle on her dr a while now, at first she did ok, but she really does not listen in it. I have tried many bits on her. Mostly snaffles and kimberwickes. She does not like kimberwickes, they're too harsh on her mouth. Especially the ported kimberwickes. I ride her western too, and she goes very well in a Tom Thumb. And English bits similar to an Tom Thumb?

I don't want to hear a bunch of stuff about "any horse can be trained to go in a snaffle" or "go back to basics" or whatever. I just want some advice on a bit that's stronger than a regular snaffle, not as strong as a kimberwicke. And possibly any English bits that are similar to Tom Thumbs.

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  • 7 years ago
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    A snaffle with a regular diameter would be stronger than an eggbutt because the pressure is more targetted. A slow twist snaffle would be stronger than a regular snaffle but lighter than a kimberwick.

    PS. Tom thumbs are quite severe with a lever of pretty serious length and a port created when the bit is broken by the snaffle action. You should consider a regular well fitted snaffle without all the leverage before using a leverage bit. I ride western in a plain full cheek snaffle and it works and looks great. It's the bit of choice truly for the reason that it works for nearly any horse in nearly any situation. Your horse deserves it and you will likely be happily surprised by the change in her level of relaxation and trust. Just be sure to get her used to any new softer bit in a controlled arena rather than out on trail or you may get a ride. I know you might think "You Know!" but we all have things to learn. It's okay.

  • 7 years ago

    The slow twist snaffle is an ok bit to try. For english riding there is short shanked curb bit called a pelham but that is designed to be ridden with 2 sets of reins. There's a whole nuther thing to deal with.

    While you really might not want to deal with it you really need to think about whether your seat and or legs are driving the horse through the bit

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