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Is it true that there is similar evidence for Jesus of Nazareth as there is for Pontius Pilate?

'The sources for Pilate's life are an inscription known as the Pilate Stone, which confirms his historicity and establishes his title as prefect; a brief mention by Tacitus; Philo of Alexandria; Josephus; the four canonical gospels; the Gospel of Nicodemus; the Gospel of Marcion; and other apocryphal works.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontius_Pilate

'Non-Christian sources used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include Jewish sources such as Josephus, and Roman sources such as Tacitus. These sources are compared to Christian sources such as the Pauline Letters and the Synoptic Gospels. These sources are usually independent of each other. '

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Pilate has:

Pilate Stone (which is just his name and title on a stone)

Tacitus

Philo

Josephus

Canonical Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John)

Non-Canonical Gospels

Apocryphal Texts

Jesus has:

Tacitus

Josephus

Other Roman Sources (for example: Mara bar Sarapion - referred to without being explicitly named)

Pauline Epistles (1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, Romans, etc.)

Canonical Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John)

Non-Canonical Gospels

Apocryphal Texts

Jesus was a low class Jewish peasant who likely did not know how to write.

Pilate was a highly educated Roman prefect, and a much more important figure in terms of the political life of the Roman Empire.

Why expect more evidence for a Jewish peasant than a Roman prefect?

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  • Anonymous
    7 years ago
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    There is secular evidence for both men.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    No, it's not true.

    The "Pilate Stele" is a written record of Pilate made during his lifetime -- a contemporary reference.

    There are no contemporary references to "Jesus." Not one, on stone, paper, papyrus, or anything else.

    The "Josephus" reference to "Jesus" is an accepted later fraudulent insertion, not recognized by any bible scholars as original to Josephus. Josephus also wasn't born until after "Jesus" supposedly died, so he could at best only be a second-hand source.

    The mention in Tacitus is *suspected* of being a later fraudulent insertion, but that's not clear like it is in the case of Josephus. At any rate, Tacitus lived long after supposed Jesus, and could never have met him. And in his brief mention (which never says "Jesus" by the way), all he does is describe what Christians of his day *believed,* and then he proceeds to call those beliefs a "pernicious myth." So if Tacitus is evidence, it's evidence that he thought the "Christ" beliefs to be a myth.

    So there is contemporary, objective evidence for Pontius Pilate (not much, but some).

    There is no such evidence for "Jesus."

    Oh, and one more thing: the "Pauline epistles," even if they existed apart from the bible, would not be evidence for an actual "Jesus." Those epistles do say anything at all about an actual "Jesus" who actually lived, the "experience" of Paul was entirely visionary and "spiritual." And Paul never met any actual, living "Jesus" anyway.

  • 7 years ago

    There is no contemporary evidence for Jesus. Modern day historians base his existence off of Historians from Antiquity. Which the vast majority of them were Christian sources. No confirmation bias there, eh?

    Pilate has contemporary accounts, artifacts and even non contemporary accounts for his existence. All we got for Jesus is hearsay decades later. Which many of them are forgeries or interpolated by Christians throughout the centuries we have no idea where the original author started and a new one begins, such as Josephus passages that mention Jesus.

  • l
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    No - Pilate probably existed. But Josephus and Tacitus did not write about Jesus. The first mention of him seems to have been over 150 years after his supposed birth. Wikipedia is not a reliable source for any of this.

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  • Nous
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    Absolutely not!

    Pilate existed.

    All the evidence says Jesus did not!

    Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.

    The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!

    There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!

    There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?

    Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!

    At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!

    Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

    Christianity is an invention of the Italians and that is why it came from the Holy ROMAN Catholic church!

    Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!

    Josephus AD 37 – AD 100

    Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120

    Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD

    Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD

    Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD

    Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.

    Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD

    Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD

    Photius AD 877 – 886 AD

    Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.

    Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!

    Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    there is more evidence that Jesus existed. people who say otherwise are full of tard particles.

  • 7 years ago

    yeah

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