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When our leaders go on television and say "this has nothing to do with Islam", are they removing Muslims of the need to change Islam?

Should we expect more of the same violence in the future ?

It seem to be our leaders job to be the first in line of some grotesque parade of complete submission.

This is preceded by Muslims murdering people in the name of their religion.

But, does removing the Muslim demographic, who preach this ideology, of any social responsibility to change it, should we expect things to continue to get a lot worse ?

More Islamic militant groups, more bombing of our civilians, more beheadings and so on.

The simple fact is, every PEW survey shows a large segment of Western living Muslims believe in some form of violence to be enacted in the name of their religion............ from 'in house' of honour beatings/murder, chopping the limbs of thieves, killing apostates/blasphemers etc.

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To the 'outward violence' us non-Muslims are forced to suffer.

Update 2:

Cephlapod; Large segment, it varies from country to country, but it is not a fringe minority in any Muslim demographic anywhere in the world.

You want numbers, it would help if you stated your locale. But hey here's a few.

The largest of these surveys PEW 2012, 38,000 face to face, showed that 72% thought that violence in the name of Islam was not OK. Comforting right, dishonest toad.

Some 80% of Egyptian Muslims think apostates should be killed.

Want European numbers, or American, next ?

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  • Jeff D
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims (or at least, they claim to be) and they justify their terror in the name of Islam. If this is not in keeping with the tenets of Islam, then we need more Muslims to condemn this subversion of their religion and remove the religious "cover" that these terrorists seem to enjoy. It's not really the job nor place of non-Islamic western leaders to say this or that group are or are not Islamic--it's up to the Islamic world to own or disown these groups and their actions. Silence is not an option (at least, not a good one).

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    You need to be careful with the terms you use, groups like ISIS come from the Wahabi sect. of Sunni Islam, they represent a minority of the Islamic world. However, countries such as Saudi Arabia support these groups by giving arms. Throughout the years, these groups seem to have separated themselves from Saudi Arabia and now pose a risk to the whole world. The only way to eliminate this form of extremism is to stop the radicalisation of young people.

  • Steven
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    " The simple fact is, every PEW survey shows a large segment of Western living Muslims believe in some form of violence to be enacted in the name of their religion",

    Love the term, " large segment ", means you can use any figure you like and doesn't gave to be proved.

    Anyway, I've no doubt these never appear on you TV.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/young...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ala...

    When was the last time you apologised for bombing a wedding party in Afghanistan??

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    "ot a fringe minority in any Muslim demographic anywhere in the world. ", again no actual facts AND surveys are not real statistics. I could judge Christian AMERICANS by face to face meeting with the Westrboro,Churhc, Jimmy Jones Minstry (well, not anymore) and david koresh (again not any more) how about Timothy Mcveigh? . I need the actual source of your dubious statistics, before I believe it.

    Also, if you're really worried about your safety, since 9/11 how many AMERICANS have been killed by Americans ?

    Since, lets say the year 2000, lets estimate around 4,000 Americans have been killed by people using islam as a reason to kill Americans.

    How many Muslims have been killed by Americans since that day? Do you think its more or less than 4,000 ?

    perhaps, if you're worried about Americans safety then you should deal with your gun crime and horrific homicide rate.

    Also, using a small poll in a relatively backward part of the wolrd, like Egypt doesn't prove thats true of western muslims.

    Here's KANSAS, and its view on SCIENCE, or perhaps Governor Bobby Jindal (Louisiana) who forced into law the totally bogus christian view of ID? Are most Christians like him?

    See, picking and chosing certain comments or stats is easy.

    I get that your own religion means alot to you and hating is easier than actually looking at hard facts and understanding.

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  • 7 years ago

    Islam does not preach to go out and murder people anymore than Christianity or Judaism does. The vast majority of Muslims get this. Islam doesn't need to change. We just need to stop the evil people who pervert Islam to justify their own villainy.

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  • 7 years ago

    They are lying to keep from offending Muslims. When the terrorist group has "Islam" in its name you have to assume that it has something to do with Islam.

  • 7 years ago

    The evil of conservatism is responsible for religious-based terror for any religion. Since you are a conservative, you are ignorant that for 400 years (1000-1400), Christians waged war against Muslims. They did everything to eliminate Islam, and failed miserably.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    I agree with Jeffrey!

  • 7 years ago

    ya, our leaders are full of it -- as usual

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