Why is it Atheists have no evidence there is no evidence for God?

Why is it Atheists have no evidence there is no evidence for God?

- A complete contradiction in terms. "No evidence of no evidence". How absurd. If there is no evidence then you cannot of evidence of non-existence.

There are innumerable facts that someone can use to make a logical statement regarding the existence of God.

- No, there are opinions, not facts.

For example, there are approximately 2.1 billion Christians in the world today. I can use that fact as part of a logical argument claiming that God exists.

- You could, you would be an idiot, but you could use it.

. I can turn right around and use that same fact as part of an equally logical argument claiming that God does not exist.

- Again, you could, but you would be an idiot.

Therefore, that fact fully qualifies as evidence both for and against the existence of God.

- Only to the monumentally absurd.

And that is only one fact out of many that could be used either way.

- And they would also be monumetnally absurd.

Therefore, I just proved that there is evidence for the existence of God.

- You have only proven that yo have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

So how is it that numerous Atheists continue to claim there is no evidence for God?

- Because they can actually think.

I submit that it is conclusive evidence if not indeed proof that a considerable number if not the majority of Atheists live on a very blind faith.

- And again, that is monumetnally absurd.

They repeat the same catchphrase over and over even though the evidence clearly contradicts their statements.

- Your absurd opinion is not evidence.

but my faith is a carefully considered, carefully reasoned and very reasonable, rational and defensible faith.

- If you use the same logic you have expressed here, you really are an idiot.

I would say back to him, “I contend that we are both men of faith.

- Yes, but you would be absurd.

you will understand why I believe in my God, and you will believe also." -- B. Knott Wildered (Not my real name, but the quote is mine.)

- I'm sorry, I could not be that stupid or logically absurd.

Because it's impossible to prove the non-existence of something. You can't have evidence of nothing. Think for 5 seconds.

", there are approximately 2.1 billion Christians in the world today. I can use that fact as part of a logical argument claiming that God exists" - not a valid one. It's Appeal to Majority. Fallacy. Fail. The fact doesn't qualify as evidence for anything. If it did, one could claim the world was at one time flat because most of the population believed it to be.

Your entire argument makes no logical sense and is an utter failure.

You aren't considering that some people think most other people are wrong about most of what they think.

For them, the fact that 2 billion, or 1 billion, or whatever number of people believe is not evidence of anything except wrongness.

The idea there is "no evidence for God" is different though. That's more dramatic as a claim -- it relies on thinking one can evaluate all evidence throughout all of time and place, around the world, all 100 billion or more instances. I personally call this a claim of omniscience, or partial omniscience. (But when pressed enough, it often changes to the sharply different claim that no one has shown evidence to them themselves, or sometimes: to anyone anywhere (implicitly))

But note that not all non-believers make such a claim. Only some, a minority, do.

The fact that many people imagine that God exists is not evidence that God exists.

If it were, how could millions of children between the ages of 2 - 5 be wrong about Santa Claus? Just as parents aid and abet their children's belief, religious organizations and their members do for eachother.

It is not faith to say that something is imaginary until evidence is presented that it isn't. The actual argument here is "what does God exist as?" Atheists will concede that because it's self-evident and that's what your millions of believers is evidence of- that a varying concept called "God" exists. But their belief is evidence of nothing beyond that.

"I just proved that there is evidence for the existence of God"

You do excellent nonsense...

LuLz

Belief in god thingies relies exclusively on faith... only.

“If you have "substantial" evidence supporting your god thingie, lay it out - but be aware that the way you feel when you look at puppies or sunsets, or conversations you had with yourself, or your inability to explain something any other way do not constitute evidence.”

“Understand that:

Dreams are not evidence.

Wishful thinking is not evidence.

Logical fallacies are not evidence.

Personal revelation is not evidence.

Illogical conclusions are not evidence.

Disproved statements are not evidence.

Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence.

Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence.

Information that is ambiguous is not evidence.

The Universe doesn't care what you believe in.

Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence.

Information that cannot be verified is not evidence.

Information that cannot be falsified is not evidence.

Experiments with inconclusive results are not evidence.

Information that is only knowable by a privileged few is not evidence.

Experiments that are not and cannot be duplicated by others are not evidence.

The wonderful thing about science is that it doesn't ask for your faith, only your eyes.”

Is there a god?

http://www.400monkeys.com/God/

No ;)

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You seem like an intelligent person, why is respecting what others believe such a challenge ? Atheists are in a world, all their own. Being faithless is not a religion, it's the absence of a religion. If you go back in time, suggesting that someone was an atheist, was like suggesting they were uneducated and like Godless pagans. In other words, primitive and backward superstitious cavemen.

Faith isn't blind, justice is. Faith is belief, without proof. Proof would take away a persons "free will". God wants people to decide for themselves if they want to worship him. If he proved that he is real, he would take away their "free will" and make people worship for all the wrong reasons. It's a simple concept, if you think about it.

Atheist has become one of those words like evolution; it can be interpreted in various ways. Probem is...people are so concerned about being "politically correct", they often have no clue as to the way of getting down to "Truth". Note my avatar name which is new, lol!

I still find it very revealing when I heard on a TV program from a Scientist that was speaking about all the galaxies and planets and so on, and she had a candid moment when she said, "There is so much that we do not know."

With that said, we should come to the conclusion that there apparently is a reason why we only know a small amount about the world we live in.

After the thousand year reign of Christ, And, after the "Final Testing", we will be perfect. At that point, everthing will be revealed and all our righteous desires will be realized. Until that time we are just "dirt" and we need to see the need for examining the scriptures...NOT taking any mere person or religion as knowing it all.

Over centures many people have intensely PRAYED for that Kingdom, even without fully knowing what it is all about: “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth.”—Matthew 6:10, King James Version.

There is much to know and it is worth the examination.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp2014...

God, as an omnipotent being, cannot exist in this universe, as it would have to act faster than light, and, nothing can act faster than light (and contain useful information), therefore god cannot exist..

Sure, you are welcome to introduce "super"naturalism, but there is no evidence for that.

Since faith is belief without evidence, you agree with atheists, "No reason for god"!

Life formed on the Earth since the action of every moment from the big bang until life began was as natural as water flowing down a hill, and just as inevitable. Nothing "random" about it, and the proof is, we're here. It only had to happen ONCE...and then it's inevitable. Evolution Law takes over!

Please note, the proper perspective is that we are the LEFTOVERS of evolution.

We are not the pinnacle of anything, just lucky to still be here.

And, for extra credit, please describe how and why a soul evolved...

How do you have evidence for "nothing" when other people claim there is "something"?

Seriously, I am curious - how would you prove to me, with evidence, that unicorns do not exist? How would you convey, with evidence of their non-existence, their status as purely imaginary?

The fact is, if we could prove non-existence, it would be, by default, a contradiction to reality: to provide evidence of something proves it's existence. If you provide evidence of it's non-existence, then by the very nature of evidence, it must exist, and therefore the evidence of non-existence would be a lie.

Now, I understand that absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence, but we need to draw a line somewhere: bronze age goat herders writing a book describing the nature of the universe, and putting in the center of everything this all-seeing, all-knowing father figure who, according to any holy scripture along the Judeo-Christian faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Baha'i) is either NOT all seeing and all knowing OR is an uncaring tool certainly DOES NOT provide evidence FOR anything.

So, you ask for "evidence" of nothing while you have yet to provide any "evidence" FOR the subject you desire to provoke someone else into disprove, and you fail to see how that is an impossibility - don't worry, I am not surprised. I am well aware this is R&S, and logic, for many of you theists of the fundamentalist nature, checked out a long time ago.

So your argument that God exists is that if 2.1 billion people believe it, than it must be true?

Up until the 1600s, everybody was convinced that the Earth was the center of the Universe. In fact, when Galileo came out and said that the Earth in fact revolved around the sun, he was tried by the Catholic church for heresy. Before him, there was limited technology and understanding on our place in the Universe. But once the telescope was invented, it proved them wrong and everything made sense.

Just because there's no evidence yet to prove God doesn't exist doesn't mean it isn't true.