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Juliette asked in PetsHorses · 6 years ago

Not sure what to do with my horse?

My horse chews his bit to no end. He will start grinding his teeth as well and literally just clanks the bit the whole time, and if you have contact he starts to throw his head. He has 2-3 wrinkles from the bit which a trainer told me that was good.

It's easier to just list what I have tried and have had done:

-Teeth done a few months ago

-Checked for wolf teeth

-6 different bits (French link full cheek, French link roller loose ring, loose ring French link, copper eggbut snaffle, loose ring snaffle, Myler level 1 Dee ring snaffle, current bit see ring snaffle)

-new saddle (fits)

-a different rider

-riding him into contact

-riding with little to no contact (still chews just doesn't toss his head)

-treated for ulcers (had many signs all others have gone away except for this one)

I have put my hands around his muzzle like how a flash would sit and it made him stop, so I was thinking trying a flash?

I had to take a video for my sister while I was on him and he just stood there clanking away with no pressure on his mouth at all.

He's also 10 years old and well broke, he is practically voice command. Only thing I'm concerned about is I wanted to show hunters, which you can't have a flash for, but he has a ground covering canter that could go either way.

Update:

***I'm gonna try lowering the bit, however the bit has been lower in his mouth before and he did the same thing, just instead of a clanking noise it was more of the metal joint of the snaffle rubbing together.

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  • 6 years ago
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    Loosen the bridle so there's at most one wrinkle, and not a big one at that. Ride him that way for a few days, and see how he does - this may stop the grinding.

    The 2-3 wrinkles method is relatively new, and lots of horses don't respond well to it. It's just too tight for their lips. I've ridden for 50 years, and until the last few years everyone recommended only one wrinkle - or even no wrinkles.

    Tighten your cavesson as much as possible.

    If that doesn't work, then I might try a flash - with the looser bridle.

  • 6 years ago

    Three wrinkles, really? Who recommends that anymore? I thought all that was old, tired and dead. Way, way too much pressure on the mouth. No wrinkles is a better way to go. Also, it sounds like you change bits often, which is also not good in my opinion. Try an oval mouth that is nice and soft but understand, this could be a longterm habit with this horse and he may never stop. What you should NOT do is to bind him up in a flash or cavesson. These are horrible instruments of torture and you should train your horse to a behavior not try to tie him into it. I've seen horses with these things so tight there was blood pooling in the tissue around the mouth. The poor horses' lips looked engorged and swollen, just horrible. So stay away from the extremes and once you are trying something new, utilize it long enough to see if it can be successful. I had an OTTB (and they all have busy mouths from the track) and I rode him bitless and he was happy and content and performed beautifully. He hated any and all bits and would just chew, chew and be mouthy no matter what. Some never get away from the behavior once it is so ingrained. The bitless alternative sounds right to me here. best of luck. Just think about putting your horse's best interest FIRST and you will be OK and, best of all, so will your horse.

  • Jeff
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    3 wrinkles on any snaffle? How bout you just reef the h%ell out of him with your hands?

    You have a few good suggestions so far. Some horses do well with a lifesaver or roller mouth. But if you never give slack and GET OUT of their mouth's they all play with bits and act goofy

    I COULD see why a guy with really soft hands takes 3 wrinkles. The horse is very soft and at a point where he cues lightly. However... that being said, when we get a horse that light and want to go lighter.. the mouth section gets thinner or we start into curbs and the hands get "telepathic". Good bitting always starts mild... has lots of "release" and as the horse lightens we end up with bits that allow neck reins and depend on legs more than shanks and mouths

  • Snezzy
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Do try dropping the bit as suggested.

    Also try: straight bar copper or rubber, bosal, English bitless hackamore bridle.

    What happens if you ride him on the longe, without a bit, a trusted assistant working the longe? Does he just go, or does he fuss even then?

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Try a copper roller or a sweet iron bit. Both promote salivation. My mare played with the bit relentlessly when she was young, until I got a copper roller. I now use a sweet iron bit on her.

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    YOU SHOULD USE A HACKAMORE (bitless bridle) horses will more than likely respond better to them than bits. and You wouldnt like having metal in ur mouth, would ya! but if u do, get a fleece hackamore. Never get a bosal!!!!!!!!!

  • 6 years ago

    The trainer told you that two or three wrinkles from the bit was GOOD? Get a second, third, and fourth opinion.

  • 6 years ago

    what about to let the bit done a hole on one side to give one or two wrinkles in the corners of the mouth? I might try that...

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    Bitless :)

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