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Is there a way the Universe can both be 13.82 Billion years old and created in 7 days from any perspective ?
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- Special EPhexLv 75 years ago
I thought it was the earth that was created in 7 days. Maybe it was meant in the context of existence, I'm not sure. But lets say it is true for the sake of argument, why don't people ever consider that time was measured by different standards than today, during biblical times and before, and varied from culture to culture? How are we supposed to know if God's time is the same as human time? So the 7 days thing is really besides the point, and I don't know why people are fixated on it. Time is relative and a mental projection and an artifact of the mind's linear/sequential observation. Time is not inherent to existence at all, and like all units of measure, is arbitrary, because you cannot measure the 'measurements' between measurements.
Energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, only made to change form, therefore existence is eternal and uncaused, without beginning or end. That is why I favor the Steady State Theory as the source of the universe over the big bang, which is limited and incomplete. The SST hypothesizes that the universe endlessly cycles between phases of expansion and contraction. Representing the start of the current universe and the end on the previous, the BBT, in my opinion , is merely a transition period between cycles, which is as far back as modern technology can detect materially, as the "beginning." 'Beginning' and 'end' are linear perceptual interpretations for the changing of matter and energy from a 'this' to a 'that', and has no inherent reality, except in the minds imagination. They are used as linguistic conveniences pertaining to the material world of form and content.
- Robert321Lv 55 years ago
25 nov 2015.
Of course you can (maybe) : All one has to do is calculate the total mass/energy of the universe (best to start with visible universe) then you have to find the size of the universe at one day old (not so easy, but could be done using Big bang reversal)
Once you have the size at one day and the total energy you simply (for a mathematician) have to calculate the gravitational Time dilation this equates to : If the dilation factor converts 13.8 billion years to one day, then you've got yourself a serious coincidence.
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PS : If God created the universe in one day, then Earth on the 3rd day, that would mean Earth was around one third the age of the universe, (guess what?) Earth (at 4.543 billion years old) is around one third the age of the universe. (coincidence?)
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- CFLv 75 years ago
The Bible doesn´t say that.
Gen 1:1 states that "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
A number of Bible scholars agree that this statement describes an action separate from the creative days recounted from verse 3 onward. The implication is profound. According to the Bible’s opening words, the universe, including our planet, Earth, was in existence for an indefinite time before the creative days began.
Geologists estimate that the earth is 4 billion years old, and astronomers calculate that the universe may be as much as 15 billion years old. Do these findings—or their potential future refinements—contradict Genesis 1:1? No. The Bible does not specify the actual age of “the heavens and the earth.” Science is not at odds with the Biblical text.
How Long Were the Creative Days?
What about the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses—the writer of Genesis—later referred to the day that followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long. (Exodus 20:11) Does the wording of Genesis support this conclusion?
No, it does not. The fact is that the Hebrew word translated “day” can mean various lengths of time, not just a 24-hour period. For example, when summarizing God’s creative work, Moses refers to all six creative days as one day. (Genesis 2:4) In addition, on the first creative day, “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Genesis 1:5) Here, only a portion of a 24-hour period is defined by the term “day.” Certainly, there is no basis in Scripture for arbitrarily stating that each creative day was 24 hours long.
How long, then, were the creative days? The Bible does not say; however, the wording of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 indicates that considerable lengths of time were involved.
Six Creative Periods
Moses wrote his account in Hebrew, and he wrote it from the perspective of a person standing on the surface of the earth. These two facts combined with the knowledge that the universe existed before the beginning of the creative periods, or days, help to defuse much of the controversy surrounding the creation account. How so?
A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one “day” continued into one or more of the following “days.” For example, before the first creative “day” started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the earth’s surface, possibly by thick clouds. (Job 38:9) During the first “day,” this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere.*
On the second “day,” the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds above and the ocean below. On the fourth “day,” the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that the sun and the moon were made to appear “in the expanse of the heavens.” (Genesis 1:14-16) In other words, from the perspective of a person on earth, the sun and moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.
The Genesis account also relates that as the atmosphere continued to clear, flying creatures—including insects and membrane-winged creatures—started to appear on the fifth “day.”
The Bible’s narrative allows for the possibility that some major events during each day, or creative period, occurred gradually rather than instantly, perhaps some of them even lasting into the following creative days.*
[Footnotes]
In the description of what happened on the first “day,” the Hebrew word used for light is ’ohr, light in a general sense, but concerning the fourth “day,” the word used is ma·’ohrʹ, which refers to the source of light.
For example, during the sixth creative day, God decreed that humans “become many and fill the earth.” (Genesis 1:28, 31) Yet, this event did not even begin to occur until the following “day.”—Genesis 2:2.
- Mike1942fLv 75 years ago
Sure - God lies in the creation - On the same grounds, I could say that the Bible was created Nov. 13 1942 at 2:10 am and the creation ended at 4:20 am (when I was born) and all people who claim to remember before then were given memories by an all powerful god and all the evidence was to older age was put there (in the Earth or Universe) by the same god (although some True Believers will say it was put there by Satan to confuse us) but that is considered cheating by Theological experts.
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- EarlLv 45 years ago
Why would the creation of the entire universe be gauged in "days" when the Earth wasn't even created until about 9 billion years later?
- ?Lv 75 years ago
No. The whole 7 day thing is an adaptation of old Bronze Age Mesopotamian creation myths. It never had any basis in reality. Not without being willing to do a LOT of mental gymnastics and try to twist billions of years into meaning "days" or other such nonsense.
- ?Lv 75 years ago
If the Earth was really rotating slowly through this period , like once in 2 billion years you would come close to about 7 days, Sadly the Earths rotation is slowing over time not speeding up.
- ?Lv 65 years ago
Who said the people who wrote the bible can comprehend what billion of years are? Easy enough to put all that creation into blocks of time an idiot can understand. The level of the average IQ in those days wasn't exactly high.....
- SSP Bowl DudeLv 75 years ago
Einstein's theory of relativity states that time is relative to the observer.
Man describes a day as one rotation of Earth on its axis. The Moon rotates on its axis in 30 Earth days, Venus in 243.
Is anyone not so Earth-centric that they can't figure out that it was not in Earth days. but in who or whatever was creating it days?
- spot aLv 75 years ago
There were no "days" before the earth started rotating and since it didn't even exist for the first 3 time periods, those time periods could be any length if you take the "words of Genesis" literally