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Why is Muhammad Ali considered a better heavyweight that Joe Louis and Wladimir Kiltschko?
Ali was great I know he faced and beat the best but he struggled a lot and got hit a lot he struggled with Frazier,Norton and many people felt Doug Jones beat him,Norton did at least twice. Wladimir and Louis faced and destroyed far more Boxers and never got hit anywhere near as much, people say Wladimir and Louis but bums but both beat the most past present and Future Heavyweights and regained the longest. Wladimir has beaten the most unbeaten Heavys. Louis and Wlad are the two best heavys
18 Answers
- Anonymous4 years ago
Muhammad Ali fought in arguably the toughest heavyweight division in history. He was able to beat the likes of Joe Frazier, Norton, Liston, and Big George. He struggled but you forgot that all of them are legends today. You will get tested when you fight the best guys in your weight. Ali fought everyone and he did a great job at promoting his fights. He had a big mouth but he backed it up in the squared circle.
Wladimir is a great heavyweight but his division is just heating up. He had a long reign beating decent guys until Tyson fury dethroned him. The best part about making a legacy is beating the best instead of crumbling when you meet a challenge.
Lets see how Wlad does against Joshua, Fury ( again ), and Wilder. I think he will lose to all of them but that's my opinion. He doesn't perform well against people that pressure. He also won't be able to clinch his way to a decision because they are his size.
If Wlad prove me wrong by beating all of them then he's great like they say. Until then he shouldn't be compared to Ali because Muhammad already beat the best in his time. Now it's time for Wlad to do the same.
Ali told Louis that he beat easy competition and Joe agreed. I don't have to say much about that.
- HassanLv 54 years ago
Because he was a cultural icon and has the best resume in HW history. Have Wlad or Louis beat a Joe Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Shavers, etc.? Exactly.
- Anonymous4 years ago
Few people know how to evaluate boxers. An older American man I know told me about a book he read in the 1970s. It had some "old timers" who had seen many boxing champions in their lives and knew the sport well give ratings to heavyweight champions from John L. Sullivan to Cassius M. Clay. They decided that Jim "Boilermaker" Jeffries was best, Jack Johnson was second and Cassius Clay ranked tenth. He also saw a 1960s computer simulation of a bout between Cassius Clay and Rocky Marciano. The computer said that Rocky Marciano won.
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- Anonymous4 years ago
Ask lestermount
- Anonymous4 years ago
For one thing, Ali was the only boxer who moved like a much lighter-weight class boxer; never before seen in the history of boxing. His skills were almost uncanny; his jabs, right crosses and combinations were pure beauty and were picture perfect. He could throw punches from almost any and every possible angle; he was also able to hit and hurt boxers while moving backward! THAT in spite of the fact that he was forced OUT of boxing during the prime of his life. He fought and WON against the government, too. After his 3-year government forced layoff, he was no longer as fast but he ADAPTED his skills to meet the challenge, and he won the VAST majority of matches against the best boxers in the Golden Age of Boxing. We can only imagine and speculate what Ali would've done had he not lost 3 years of boxing during his prime years.
He revolutionized boxing. Never before had a boxer acted as his own promoter; he sold tickets like no other boxer in the history of the sport.
And, what many don't know is that HE did things that were never mentioned by the news media. For example, he heard of a former Cuban boxer who was destitute, homeless and sleeping in public toilets; Ali heard of this and he had members of his team find him in Florida, cleaned him up, found him a home, bought clothes and saw to it he was hired to work teaching youngsters how to box. Likewise, he heard of a small Jewish Nursing Home that was facing bankruptcy and would be forced to close its doors; he single-handedly supported the the Jewish Nursing Home for about a year, while his team sought out charitable organizations to donate and support the Nursing Home. And there is an untold number of other charitable acts he performed that HE fought to keep out of the news, hundreds of destitute people he personally supported during his lifetime. Yet, some haters still WANT to believe Ali was bigoted and prejudiced. These are the things that made him a true champion of people down on their luck.
Insofar as boxing, yes, he was the greatest HUMAN BEING ever to step into the squared circle. Just ask ex-heavyweight champ, George Foreman. Insofar as boxers he had difficult with, that is why boxing experts love to say, boxing styles make the fight; ALL boxers have had difficulties with opponents with certain styles, even the Greatest, Muhammad Ali.
Vladimir Klitschko... please, he was merely taller and heavier than his opponents; he relied on leaning his weight on other boxers... skills? Questionable... compared to most other professional boxers. Both in their prime, Ali would've made Klitschko look like a titbaby getting brutally spanked, knocked down and trashed. Joe Louis would've schooled Klitschko, too.
Yes, Joe Louis was and is remembered as one of the greats of boxing; there is no denying that; he was a very good man, too. But, let's be honest, he also fought in a different era, and never met anyone with the speed, skills, talents and style of Ali. So, had they both met in their prime... well, let's just say the jury is still out on that.
Good Lord, have him in your mercy and bless him throughout eternity.
- TheKittenLv 74 years ago
Ali had a lot of things going for him:
-Great showman. And America always loves a great showman.
-Beautiful jab and fast hands. Some of his wins are simply artistic displays. He didn't get many knockouts later on, but he learned to control things with pristine precision.
-Heart of diamond. A heart that could take everything and the kitchen sink to the body from George Foreman and still smile at him. Foreman just deflated. He felt like he was trying to push an elephant out of his way.
- Anonymous4 years ago
no