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A circle centered at the point (1,1) with radius 5 is defined by (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 = 25. Find where the derivative is undefined.?

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A circle centered at the point (1,1) with radius 5 is defined by (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 = 25. Find the derivative of this curve and state at which two ordered pairs, (x,y), the derivative is not defined.

Would it be (-4,1) and (6,1)?

I took the derivative and got -(x-1)/(y-1)

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  • 2 years ago

    You can do this without calculus. Draw your circle. Draw vertical tangent lines on the left and right sides of the circle. They touch the circle level with its center where y is 1. There are one radius to the left and right of the center. x = 1 - 5 = -4 and x = 1 + 5 = 6

    The points are (-4, 1) and (6, 1)

  • MyRank
    Lv 6
    2 years ago

    Given that

    (x-1)² + (y-1)² = 25

    Radius = 5

    Center = (1, 1)

    (x-1)² - 25 = -(y-1)²

    Differentiation with respect ‘x’

    2(x-2) - 0 = -2(y-1) dy/dx

    2(x-1) / -2(y-1) = dy/dx

    dy/dx = (x-1) / -(y-1)

    dy/dx = 0

    (x-1) / -(y-1) = 0

    x - 1 = 0 → x = 1

    now derivative is undefined when

    x = 1, y = 1.

  • Como
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    2 ( x - 1) + 2(y- 1) dy/dx = 0

    dy/dx = - (x - 1) / ( y - 1 )

    dy/dx = (1 - x) / (y - 1)

    Undefined for y = 1

    and

    x - 1 = ± 5

    x = - 4 , x = 6

    Undefined at (- 4 , 1) and (6,1)

  • 2 years ago

    (1 ± √25, 1) which is (-4,1) and (6,1)

    The tangent to (x-1)^2 + (y-1)^2 = 25 at (x₀,y₀) are (x₀-1)(x-1) + (y₀-1)(y-1) = 25

    This is vertical when y₀=1, where (x-1)^2 = 25

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  • 2 years ago

    y' = (1 -x)/(y -1)

    Derivative is undefined where y-1 = 0

    (x-1)^2 = 25

    x-1 = 5 ; x = 6

    -(x-1) = 5 ; x = -4

    (6,1) (-4,1) check

  • 2 years ago

    That's correct.

    You can't have y=1.

    And the places on the circle where y=1, are x=-4 and x=6.

    Answer:

    (-4,1) and (6,1)

    P.S. Those are the left and right sides of the circle where a tangent line would be vertical (essentially an infinite slope).

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