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strpenta asked in Arts & HumanitiesHistory · 2 years ago

Madam Bathory, AKA Countess Dracula, is from Slovakia (used to be Hungary). Melanoma Tramp is from Slovenia.... 2 questions...?

1. Are the two countries close together and

2. Are the two women related?

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  • Anonymous
    2 years ago
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    First you have to understand that the whole of eastern and central (and western) Europe has borders which have changed many times in the last 1,000 years (and also before that).

    Note that Germany did not exist as a unified nation until 1871, and that the Germanic lands (a wider concept which often included Slovak and Hungarian lands and several others) were in the Middle Ages the heartlands of the Holy Roman Empire - no connection with the pope in Rome, and often in verbal and physical conflict with the pope).

    Note that Slovenia has only been in existence since the 1990s, when former Yugoslavia broke up as a result of vicious inter-ethnic conflict; and note that Yugoslavia had only been formed in the early 1920s as part of the huge re-arrangement of central and eastern Europe after WW1.

    Note that Slovakia came about as the result of the break-up of Czechoslovakia (formed also in the 1920s) in the 1990s.

    From all those (many fairly recent) changes you will note that you need to know an enormous amount about European history to be able to make sense of any notions of country names and borders.

    It might indeed be that the two women you ask about are "related", as are most Europeans if you go back far enough. And add to that some ancestry from (black) North Africa for many Europeans.

    Look at a modern map of Europe to see that Slovakia and Slovenia are about 150 miles apart at their closest points. In Europe 150 miles can seem quite a long distance - as a comparison with the USA it is twice the distance from New York to Poughkeepsie.

    Try also to find a map of Europe from shortly before 1900 - to see just how different Europe was even at that fairly recent point not long before WW1.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    Fake question.

    Fake point.

    Fake news.

    Real troll.

  • 2 years ago

    such an absurd question

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    If you visit the Ripley's Believe it or Not in San Antonio Texas you can see a life size mannequin of Bathory bathing in a tub of human blood.

    There is no connection between Bathory and the First Lady other than a shared homeland.

  • 2 years ago

    Infamous Lady:The True Story of Countess Erzsebet Bathory ...

    infamouslady.com

    The Infamous Lady, Countess Erzsebet(Elizabeth)Bathory is reviled as the World's Worst Female Serial Killer, Countess Báthory is said to have bathed in the blood of …

    Much has been written about the so-called Infamous Lady, Tiger of Csejthe, and Blood Countess, Erzsébet (Elizabeth)

    Báthory of Hungary. Reviled as the World's Worst Female Serial Killer, Countess Báthory is said to have bathed in

    the blood of the 650 servant girls she tortured and murdered. Upon her arrest, she was condemned to life

    imprisonment and walled up in a tower of her castle. Reputed to be a vampire, lesbian, and witch, her shocking story

    inspired the Brothers Grimm, Bram Stoker, and gothic horror fans around the world for the past four hundred year

    Unfortunately, numerous rumors and legends evolved over time. In her own day, Countess Báthory was simply

    referred to as the Infamous Lady. Two hundred years later, with a vampire craze sweeping Europe, legends had

    already morphed her into the Vampire Lady. In her own time, servants washed away her victims' blood or covered it

    with ash; two hundred years later, German author Michael Wegener invented the story that she bathed in this blood

    as a magical means of sustaining her youthful appearance. History has painted the Countess as an insane

    murderess; yet original letters, trial transcripts, and depositions indicate a far more complicated figure--the wife of a

    national war hero, a mother, generous benefactor, and socialite who routinely attended court and even the king's

    coronation, just months before her arrest. Unfortunately, by the 21st century, the accounts of her life have become

    so fictionalized that the Countess is little more than a caricature.

    For most English-speaking scholars or fans of the subject matter, the material written twenty years ago by Raymond

    T. McNally is the accepted standard of research on Countess Báthory; yet, Dr. McNally relied heavily on material by

    German biographer R.A. von Elsberg and his own research which was hastily conducted on a trip to Europe. Some

    of Dr. McNally's translations, as well as von Elsberg's work, have since been proven incorrect or incomplete. In

    addition, new source material has come to light.

    For English readers, unfortunately, much of this new material has remained inaccessible: European researchers

    have translated it primarily into German or Slovak.

    So no and no.

  • Tina
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Countess (not Madam) Elizabeth Bathory was never known as 'Countess Dracula' except in a Hammer film. She was a Hungarian noblewoman and almost certainly not related to Melania Trump.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    2 years ago

    ROYAL FAMILY OF ENGLAND US KIN TO; Valid The Impaler

  • xyzzy
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    Elizabeth Báthory was from Hungry although when she married her husband give a castle and lands in Slovakia. The two countries are about 300 miles apart. Why would they be related?

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    You have no reason to be rude about the First Lady or change her name around like a cancer. I don't like her husband but it is just wrong to go after someone's family. Leave the lady ALONE. Countess Bathory was firmly a Hungarian in Hungary. Elizabeth Bathory was married to her cousin Ferenc Bathory because they were connected to royalty. The reason that the Bathory family had the same shield in their coat of arms as the Dracula princes of Wallachia and Transylvania, a shield showing a sword and three giant "wolf's" teeth is that it's not wolf's teeth but dragon's teeth, from their shared descent from von Bujaks who were dragon slayers.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    1. Yes. (Slovenia used to be part of Yugoslavia.) By the way, Slovakia was half of a country called "Czechoslovakia".

    2. No.

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