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Is it just me or are there others who are suspicious of people who believe in the supernatural or paranormal and find it hard to trust them or accept their belief/faith as some sort of proof? Why is it that these things are always invisible, secretive, or shrouded in mystery? Isn't that way too convenient?

I've always found it interesting that on a day to day basis, christians are like everybody else, living life as they see fit and doing as they please; you wouldn't know they were christian unless they told you, but here on R&S, they demonstrate such devotion, zeal, and fervor, quoting scripture and lecturing others on morality. What's the deal with this?

Examples: The Virgin Mary, Buddha, Ghandi, Muhamad, Stalin, Hitler, Kennedy, Elvis, Che Guevara, Napoleon, Mao, Eva Peron, and many more. Of course, as with everything, there's always a big cheese, a top dog, and Jesus no doubt, is the biggest one among iconic figures and personality cults, but no more than that; why does that make him a god?

...proof that they are the obedient sheep of their lord and savior Steve Jobs almighty?

I seem to recall that in Episode III, Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidius, explained to Anakin that a Sith apprentice must eventually kill his master and find an apprentice of his own or the master will kill him and find a new apprentice, and in Episode I, Qwaigon Jin (please excuse the spelling) told Obi won that there's always two Sith, master and apprentice. Now, In Episode VI shortly after Darth Vader kills Palpatine, he himself dies. Did the Sith order die with him? Does anyone know of a revival, perhaps in one of the book versions or something?

They say that according to scriptures, he failed to meet several requirements for messiahship, one of which is that the messiah is supposed to be human only, not divine or divine/human, and since they are the people who brought you the old testament, don't you think they know what they are talking about?

Was he some kind of close crony of Emperor Palpatine or something?

and fiercely defend god's policy of permitting bad things to happen as they frequently do here on Y.A., (even pointing out that they are good for character building) why is it than when something really bad happens, like the death of a loved one for instance, christians come to god and ask why? Especially when it happens to them personally. Don't they already have the answer? Why do they act as if they don't know?

Such as, "limited time offer" or "order now while supplies last."

...before humans do and travel to the Earth to colonize it and exploit it's resources, will the planet's security be compromised by all those religious people awaiting the return of their deity? Hint: Look what happened to the 16th Century inhabitants of today's Mexico when they saw Cortez and his men disembarking from large ships and riding horses (both unheard of to them) and thought they were returning deities.

...before humans do and travel to the Earth to colonize it and exploit it's resources, will the planet's security be compromised by all those religious people awaiting the return of their deity? Hint: Look what happened to the 16th Century inhabitants of today's Mexico when they saw Cortez and his men disembarking from large ships and riding horses (both unheard of to them) and thought they were returning deities.

It seems that with such a large christian population constantly praying and chanting, "god bless america," this country shouldn't be having such serious morality problems. Atheists and members of non-christian faiths are comparatibely a minority so they couldn't be that influential. What gives?

Beatlejuice was released in 1988; it's been over 20 years and to my knowledge, there's been no sequel. I don't recall it doing badly at the box office. All opinions welcome. If you have inside information, even better.

....don't you have the feeling that trying to reason with religious people is the equivalent of talking to a person with a finger in each ear and going, lah lah lah lah lah lah to drown you out?

Since god doesn't talk or show himself, and since all we know about him comes from what people write or say, could it be that he is made up and people are the ones pulling the strings?

Ipuwer Papyrus

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The Ipuwer Papyrus is a single surviving papyrus holding an ancient Egyptian poem, called The Admonitions of Ipuwer[1] or The Dialogue of Ipuwer and the Lord of All.[2] Its official designation is Papyrus Leiden I 344 recto[3]. It is housed in the Dutch National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden, Netherlands, after being purchased from Giovanni Anastasi, the Swedish consul to Egypt, in 1828.

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The sole surviving manuscript dates to the later 13th century BCE (no earlier than the 19th dynasty in the New Kingdom). Egyptologist Dr Halpern believed that the papyrus was a copy of an earlier Middle kingdom copy. The dating of the original composition of the poem is disputed, but several scholars, have suggested a date between the late 6th dynasty and the Second Intermediate Period (ca. 1850 BCE - 1600 BCE).[4] The theme of this work has previously been taken either as a lament inspired by the supposed chaos of the First Intermediate Period, or as historical fiction depicting the fall of the Old Kingdom several centuries earlier, or possibly a combination of these.

Ipuwer describes Egypt as afflicted by natural disasters and in a state of chaos, a topsy-turvy world where the poor have become rich, and the rich poor, and warfare, famine and death are everywhere. One symptom of this collapse of order is the lament that servants are leaving their servitude and acting rebelliously. Because of this, and such statements as "the River is blood", some have interpreted the document as an Egyptian account of the Plagues of Egypt and the Exodus in the Old Testament of the Bible, and it is often cited as proof for the Biblical account by various religious organisations[5][6].

David Rohl recently proposed a revised chronology, dating the Exodus to the Second Intermediate Period, in which case Ipuwer might refer to that event. However, Rohl's chronology has been rejected by Kenneth Kitchen.[7]. Moreover, the association of Ipuwer with the Exodus is generally rejected by Egyptologists.[citation needed] Those who interpret the Exodus as a historical event generally place it later, in the reign of Ramesses II.[citation needed] This in spite of the fact that there is absolutely no evidence from archaeology or from any documents that Ramses II had to deal with the Ten Plagues or anything like them, or that he chased after runaway slaves. Some have alternatively interpreted the poem's references to disturbances in nature as relating to the Thera eruption, which according to dendrochronology and radiocarbon dating occurred ca. 1650-1600 BCE.

Both the Exodus and Thera interpretations (which can be combined with each other, and sometimes are) assume that the poem records a historical event, which is disputed by many Egyptologists.[8] Recently, the poem has instead been interpreted by some as an essentially ahistorical, timeless consideration of the theme of 'order vs. chaos'. On this reading, the references in Ipuwer to rivers of blood, and to slaves revolting, may be schematic 'world turned upside down' laments rather than reports of specific historical events.

The later passages of the poem contain a dialogue between two figures identified only as "Ipuwer" and the "Majesty of the Lord of All" (this term can be used either of the sun-god, or the king). Although these sections of the poem are badly damaged, they apparently debate the causes of evil and chaos in the world, and the balance between human and divine responsibility for them. This dialogue forms one of the oldest examinations in world literature of the question of theodicy.[9]