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How is it like, you get high, you believe in god.. is there anything religious going on when you go way high.

.. just asking

I think his great!!!

If you don't know him, Google it or watch some of his videos :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/NeildeGrasseTyson1/vid...

I personalty love him .. he waked up in me a passion for science and the universe :)

if you don't know what im talking about, you can see a few videos on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/user/NeildeGrasseTyson1

Beyond Belief is a series of conferences about science, reason, religion and survival.

Its the most intelligent debate about science & religion that i ever saw in my life.. a must see.

Session 1 - http://youtu.be/oLMwg4BasEc

Session 2 - http://youtu.be/IeN0QyMWC30

Session 3 & 4 - http://youtu.be/g5XA6wtM5Io

Session 5 - http://youtu.be/ZhuCrlvt3cM

Session 6 - http://youtu.be/w4laCUWIoJc

Session 7 - http://youtu.be/q-zfMN71Nys

Session 8 - http://youtu.be/bmFRUjMpTAg

Session 9 & 10 - http://youtu.be/qWmGUmACpAg

Featuring Sam Harris, Lawrence Krauss, Micheal Shermer, Steven Weinberg, Richard Dawkins, Joan Roughgarden and Neil Degrasse Tyson.

The farthest known star in the universe is in the galaxy "Abell 1835 IR1916", which lies some 13.2 billion light years from earth.

If we can see this galaxy, it means its light traveled 13.2 billion light years to reach us.. so how can the universe or the earth have been created 6000 years ago?

How do you explain that they are such a nice and peaceful country.. should they be killing themselves.. since they don't have a book that teaches moral values?

For example:

Sweden haves 1 homicide per 100,000 inhabitants,

America on the other way haves 5 homicide per 100,000 inhabitants.

Beyond Belief is a series of conferences about science, reason, religion and survival... its the most inteligent debate about science and religion that i ever saw in my life.. a must see.

There are 10 sessions.

Session 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLMwg4BasEc

Session 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeN0QyMWC30

Session 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XA6wtM5Io

Session 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XA6wtM5Io

Session 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhuCrlvt3cM

Session 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4laCUWIoJc

Session 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-zfMN71Nys

Session 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmFRUjMpTAg

Session 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmGUmACpAg

Session 10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmGUmACpAg

Beyond Belief is a series of conferences about science, reason, religion and survival... its the most inteligent debate about science and religion that i ever saw in my life.. a must see.

Session 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLMwg4BasEc

Session 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeN0QyMWC30

Session 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XA6wtM5Io

Session 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XA6wtM5Io

Session 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhuCrlvt3cM

Session 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4laCUWIoJc

Session 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-zfMN71Nys

Session 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmFRUjMpTAg

Session 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmGUmACpAg

Session 10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmGUmACpAg

Genesis 5:32

After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.

Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

Genesis 8:13

By the first day of the first month of Noah's six hundred and first year, the water had dried up from the earth. Noah then removed the covering from the ark and saw that the surface of the ground was dry.

Do believers seriously believe on this story?

When religious people realise they're not going to draw you into their fantasy they'll often say something like: "You wait, you'll turn to God when you're close to death." - not because you want to, but because you're afraid not to. When you put it like that, it does sound like a tempting psychological refuge, but I just can't seem to get past the fact that God doesn't exist.

But what if you're wrong? What if he does exist? You don't know. What if Hell exists? Wouldn't it be more prudent to believe anyway, just in case? Hum ..not really. You see, Hell might well be very unpleasant, but the alternative to Hell is far too horrible to contemplate.

The alternative is eternal submission - real death.

God is such a deeply unpleasant character I'd be ashamed and embarrassed to find myself turning to him, even after a few beers. He's so obviously manmade, this god, it's embarrassing. You can tell from the human limitations. Vengeful, narrow-minded, petty, ego-bound, quick to take offence, incredibly stupid - he's got our fingerprints all over him.

Look at the way he behaves the very first time we step out of line way back in Genesis. The entire race is permanently banished and a curse it put on all future generations.

But am I the only one who thinks that's a gross overreaction on God's part, is a pretty obvious sign of insecurity? And if God is insecure he's not perfect, and if he's not perfect he's not God. So, even if he did exist, he'd be an impostor.

Yet we still allow religions to impose from the grave their laughably narrow and ignorant world view on the whole of human civilization... we must be insane!

The argument for religious faith is an insult to any intelligent human being.

So why is religion popular?

Because it's easy to explain to idiots. Magic always is. And, of course, to true believers, the third of the population, so it's reckoned, who have a need to believe, and who want to believe, and who have taken a solemn vow of gullibility. And these are the people who, when push comes to shove, will warn you with comically grim foreboding that you'll turn to God when you're close to death.

But if I were making a wager I'd be inclined to bet that they'll turn to God when they're close to death and find nobody there...

Peace

When religious people realise they're not going to draw you into their fantasy they'll often say something like: "You wait, you'll turn to God when you're close to death." - not because you want to, but because you're afraid not to. Religion needs us to believe that death is something to be greatly feared without its protection, and the closer we get to it the greater the fear will become until it builds to a crescendo of terror right at the final moment, and then, you'd better believe it, you'll turn to God. Actually, when you put it like that, it does sound like a tempting psychological refuge, but, I don't know what it is, but I just can't seem to get past the fact that God doesn't exist. But what if you're wrong? What if he does exist? You don't know. What if Hell exists? Wouldn't it be more prudent to believe anyway, just in case? Not really, no. You see, Hell might well be very unpleasant, but the alternative to Hell is far too horrible to contemplate. The alternative is submission - real death. Death of the spirit, what religion feeds on and craves. God is such a deeply unpleasant character I'd be ashamed and embarrassed to find myself turning to him, even after a few beers, for any reason other than to give him the finger, which is, by the way, what I do give anyone claiming to be his representative. He has no representatives. He doesn't exist. He's so obviously manmade, this god, it's embarrassing. You can tell from the human limitations. Vengeful, narrow-minded, petty, ego-bound, quick to take offence, incredibly stupid - he's got our fingerprints all over him. Look at the way he behaves the very first time we step out of line way back in Genesis. The entire race is permanently banished and a curse it put on all future generations. Even Gaddafi wouldn't go that far - would he? OK, maybe a bad example. But am I the only one who thinks that's a gross overreaction on God's part and a pretty obvious sign of insecurity? And if God is insecure he's not perfect, and if he's not perfect he's not God. So, even if he did exist, he'd be an impostor. Yet we still allow religions to impose from the grave their laughably narrow and ignorant world view on the whole of human civilisation. We must be insane. The argument for religious faith is an insult to any intelligent human being. So why is religion popular? Because it's easy to explain to idiots. Magic always is. And, of course, to true believers, the third of the population, so it's reckoned, who have a need to believe, and who want to believe, and who have taken a solemn vow of gullibility. And these are the people who, when push comes to shove, will warn you with comically grim foreboding that you'll turn to God when you're close to death. But if I were making a wager I'd be inclined to bet that they'll turn to God when they're close to death and find nobody there...

Peace

I can give you one clue... it wasn't god.

Genesis 5:32

After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.

Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

Genesis 8:13

By the first day of the first month of Noah's six hundred and first year, the water had dried up from the earth. Noah then removed the covering from the ark and saw that the surface of the ground was dry.

How can this be possible?

Before the Reformation about five hundred years ago all Christians in Europe were Catholics until the Church became too corrupt and debauched even for Christianity to stomach. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, the moment the Church was established it became a political organisation, which meant that the consolidation of power and influence quickly became much more important than the message. And inevitably this led to bickering about status and who got to wear the big ring and the fancy hat, until before long rival popes were facing each other with massed armies on the battlefield - in the name of Christ, naturally. And this is early days, don't forget the Crusades, the Inquisition. The systematic suppression of knowledge and free thought that would characterise this church for the next two thousand years. The conquest of the New World, where the sacred cross of Jesus slashed and burned its way through entire populations in a way that modern jihadis can only dream about, imposing itself with unparalleled cruelty on civilisations half a world away that even today still don't quite know what hit them. This is a church that claims credit for keeping civilisation alive during the Dark Ages, but the truth is that clergy were the only people who knew how to read and write, and they made damn sure it stayed that way for hundreds of years. When the printing press was finally invented in Europe, seven hundred years after the Chinese invented it, the Church condemned it as a work of the devil. Takes one to know one, I guess. The first man to translate the Bible into English was burned at the stake for his trouble, along with any astronomers and freethinkers they could round up when they weren't too busy making money from selling places in heaven, or rolling boulders of dogma into the path of science at every opportunity from Galileo all the way through the Enlightenment, which might just as well not have happened, up to the present day. This is a church that condemned the smallpox vaccine as a violation of God's will. It opposed anaesthesia in childbirth because a woman is supposed to suffer pain as punishment for Eve's sin. Not Adam's, Eve's sin. The sin of being a woman. It's one of the two main sins in the entire Christian faith, the other one being, anybody? Yes, of course - the Jews killing Jesus.

Knowing this how can you be a Christian ?

Abraham is the person who originally decided that there would only be one god from here on in. One size fits all - that was his message. All the gods of the rivers and mountains and woods, and so on, the local small specialised gods that had served people so well for generations, they would have suddenly found themselves squeezed out of the picture, or forcibly amalgamated into one giant elemental conglomerate with centralised control, a narrow moral code, and righteous vengeance in its heart. Appropriately, given the religions that he spawned, Abraham was not particularly noted for his mental stability. He was famously prepared to kill his own son because he heard God telling him to. Fortunately God intervened at the last second and stayed his hand, proving what a just and merciful god he is, if you ignore the severe psychological trauma he's just inflicted on these two unfortunate people. Scarred both of them for life, no question about that. But that's pretty much par for the course, isn't it, for the Old Testament. Everyone ends up scarred, mentally, physically. Hardly anyone comes out of it in one piece. Look at the treatment dished out to Adam and Eve, the very first people on the planet. They were punished for being true to their nature, the very nature that God endowed them with. He knew they were curious, he knew they had to be curious to survive, so he knew that they would eat that apple. One might start to suspect that God only created us in the first place in order to punish us. Because this is the first lesson we learn in Genesis, that being human is a sin. We were punished and driven from paradise for the sin of being true to our nature, but we pulled ourselves together and we started on the tower of Babel, because we wanted to get up to Heaven and have a look around. We were being curious, doing what comes naturally, but God didn't like that much either, so he punished us by destroying our language. So here we are, we're barely just a few pages into the Bible and already we've taken two massive body blows from our loving and merciful god. Shortly after this he floods the entire planet because somebody must have looked at him the wrong way. He does tip off one person to build a boat, because obviously he doesn't want everyone wiped out, otherwise there'd be nobody left to punish. Human gods tend to be wilful, violent and unpredictable in a shallow, ego-driven kind of way. The only thing boundless about them is their eagerness to take offence, like so many of the sensitive souls who worship them. But if you're looking for offence, then look no further than the Bible, surely one of the most offensive books that you could read. Unless you believe that adulterers should be killed, or that it's OK to sell your daughter into slavery, or that anyone who works on the sabbath should be stoned to death on the spot. Maybe you're fine with all that, or with the fact that God repeatedly advocates mass murder. Granted. In Deuteronomy 13, according to God, if you hear of a city where another god is worshipped you must kill everybody in that city; men, women, children, babies, even cattle. And then you must burn that city to the ground.

Oh, and by the way, thou shalt not kill.

Peace

Religion doesn't much like gay people, does it? But then of course religion doesn't much like anything, and if we listed all the things religion disapproves of we'd probably still be here next Monday. However, it does seem to hold a special place of condemnation in its hard little heart for homosexuals. To the religious mind, if you're gay then you've got something wrong with you. Whereas, to my mind, if you think it's some kind of insult to call somebody gay, that's when you've actually got something wrong with you. I realise that this is a sensitive subect to some people.

I've heard it suggested from some people that Christians are so irrationally obsesssed with this subject because deep down they're terrified that Jesus himself might have been gay. There's no real evidence for it, but then there's no real evidence for anything to do with religion. So yeah, I'll buy it. Keep an open mind, that's what I always say? To be fair, according to some accounts like the gospels of Philip or Thomas, it's probable that Jesus wasn't gay because he got married and had a child. But unfortunately those gospels never actually made it into the New Testament, so they can't possibly be true. If we take the actual Gospels as gospel then what we've got is a man in his thirties, unmarried in a culture where it's almost unheard of for a man of thirty to be unmarried. Plus, come on, you can't ignore there's a missing passage from the Gospel of Mark that actually describes Jesus over his naked body, and he stayed with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the kingdom of God. I bet he did. Along with one or two other little mysteries while he was at it. Well, why not? He was only human. The apostle John repeatedly refers to himself as the one who Jesus specially loved. I don't know whether he meant it "in the Greek manner", so to speak, but what would it matter if he did?

This is the point. If Jesus was gay, would it negate the teachings and the parables? Would the Sermon on the Mount lose its authority if preached by the queen of queens rather than the king of kings? And if somebody could prove historically, beyond all doubt, that Jesus was in fact homosexual, would Christians then reject Jesus, or would they reject the evidence as usual? From what I've read in the Gospels, I think Jesus was a pretty common sense sort of person, and I don't think he would have had a problem with anybody being who they are. I do think, though, that he had a problem with people who pretend to be one thing while being another...

Peace, to all Christians .. especially the secretly queer ones.

If you criticize religion, every so often someone will say to you quite disapprovingly "You may not have faith in God, but you could show a bit more respect for those people who do." My conscience knows that there's no earthly reason for anybody on this planet to respect religion in any way. And quite frankly, the fact that religion gets so little abuse compared to what it really deserves, I can only attribute to the unbelievable tolerance, restraint, and plain good manners of atheists and secularists everywhere. So, if you are a religious person, and if you're thinking of demanding more respect for your beliefs, please try to bear in mind that you and your religion are already getting way more respect than you have ever deserved. Your faith is a joke. Your god is a joke. He's so absurd he's an embarrassment even to people who don't believe in him. So far, no proof has been forthcoming, nor is it likely to be, as we all well know, so respect, I'm afraid, is out of the question. The best you can hope for is amused incredulity, and that would be on a good day. People say you can only truly understand faith when you have faith, which I take to mean when you've suspended your critical faculties and hypnotised yourself into believing a load of fascist nonsense about your eternal soul then you'll understand faith. Well, I can certainly believe that. Faith-peddlers like to put themselves beyond question by claiming that their faith transcends reason, the very thing that calls it to account. How convenient. Yes, faith transcends reason the way a criminal transcends the law. If you hear a senior clergyman using the word "transcendent" to explain the nonsense he claims to believe, then you know two things: One: he doesn't know what he's talking about, and two: he doesn't want you to know what he's talking about either. Faith doesn't transcend reason at all. Faith sidesteps reason. It runs away from reason because reason threatens its cosy bubble of delusion, so faith disqualifies reason the way a Dutch criminal court disqualifies truth and witnesses, and for much the same reason. If you're a believer, your faith allows you to adopt a set of beliefs that make absolutely no sense, knowing that you won't be measured by whether they make sense, but by the level of piety you exhibit in believing them. In other words, your willingness to deny reality becomes a measure of your virtue. No wonder religion is so popular. But what a price you pay for this virtue. You've been persuaded that believing in the impossible is your only hope. How did that happen? And that your purpose is to worship something beyond your understanding, defined by, and only accessible through, self-appointed intermediaries. Your thoughts, your words and your identity are no longer solely yours to decide, but are subject to the approval of those who have assumed authority over you through your faith, the people who have told you that you were born with something wrong with you (come on!) in a state of sin, no less, a condition that can only be cured by complete submission and obedience to them (surprise surprise) from the moment you're born to the moment you die. And if all this doesn't exactly flatter you ego (and why should it?) don't worry; we can give it a special name to make you feel better and persuade you that you've still got some dignity. Let's call it faith, and let's deem it to be the highest and most noble and profound of all virtues, and let's pretend that it comes from within, when we all know that nothing about your religion is allowed to come from within because that would give you strength and freedom, the two things your religion wants as far away from you as possible. Faith is the grip that clergy have over you. It's the invisible rope around your neck that pulls you along the road they want you to travel, for their benefit, not yours. It's a dead end word. It's a word of bondage. It's a word that lets you believe what you've been told to believe without feeling that you've been told what to believe, but you have, and you can stop pretending any time you like. It's not a virtue; that's the last thing it is. It's an abdication from reality. It's a dumb act of self-hypnosis. It's a cowardly cop out. It's gullibility with a halo. And hiding behind it is like pretending to be an invalid. So I don't really understand exactly what it is that I'm supposed to respect. It seems to me I'd need to be some kind of moral contortionist to respect something that noxious, something that depends for its existence on a closed mind, and that is clearly dragging humanity in the wrong direction, , and giving us false ideas about ourselves and about the nature of reality. I feel if I respected that I'd be needlessly contributing to the stupidity and ignorance of the human race, and t

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine). It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned. As such the term may be used pejoratively, often in the context of education, political opinions, theology or religious dogma.

Instruction in the scientific method, in particular, cannot properly be called indoctrination, in the sense that the fundamental principles of science call for critical self-evaluation and skeptical scrutiny of one's own ideas, a stance outside any doctrine. In practice, however, a certain level of non-rational indoctrination, usually seen as miseducative, is invariably present. The term is closely linked to socialization; in common discourse, indoctrination is often associated with negative connotations, while socialization refers to cultural or educational learning.

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I thought it was hilarious... hehe

Im atheist, but damn i love this guy, and this video is awesome!!

... especially because he included the religious freaks in the beginning :)

http://youtu.be/Am9hav-3J9E

He is the angel with the scabbed wings

Hard-drug face, want to powder his nose

He will deflower the freshest crop

Dry up all the wombswith his rock and roll sores

Dead

Is what he is, he does what he please

The things that he has you'll never want to see

What you're never gonna be now

Sketch a little keyholefor looking-glass people

You don't want to see him

You only want to be him

Mommy's got a scarecrow, gotta let the corn grow

Man can't always reap what he sow

"He is the maker"

(He is the taker)

"He is the saviour"

(He is the raper)

Get back you're never gonna leave him

Get back you're always gonna please him