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What would the concept, practice of Secular Humanism THREATEN the most at the Core of Mankind?

What would the concept, practice of Secular Humanism THREATEN the most at the Core of Mankind?

What would the concept, practice of Secular Humanism THREATEN the most at the Core of Mankind?

Experience is one Heck of a memorable Teacher!!!

What SONG has been the best teacher of Experience for you?

Any takers?

Certainly would appreciate the company of learning experiences through the sound of music only!!!

Come on, we can all teach, and by that - help one another...and also this ubiquitous insomnia of mine!

Thanks people!!!

According to the Dalai Lama :

When other beings, especially those who hold a grudge against you, (who would harm you) abuse you, hurt you, hold envy towards you, resent you, even hate you..you should not abandon, instead you are to hold them as objects of your greatest compassion, and take "Care" of them.

I understand the philosophical wisdom of this. And I have been a practicing Buddhist for many years, now..But what if that "object to hold from one's greatest compassion..and thusly; "care for" had such power of malevolence for whatever the reason within them, that they hurt you even more, if you were to embrace as to care for them, and they bit you, as a viper may, and cause you EVEN MORE HARM, and EMOTIONAL DEATH?

What's your opinion of this? Is it something we should do for the sake of compassion?Will one turn through compassion the Viper into a babe, and love you, or as you'd try to love IT, would you sacrifice yourself for its' unfortunate malevolent condition?

Opinions?

Thank U

According to the Dalai Lama :

When other beings, especially those who hold a grudge against you, (who would harm you) abuse you, hurt you, hold envy towards you, resent you, even hate you..you should not abandon, instead you are to hold them as objects of your greatest compassion, and take "Care" of them.

I understand the philosophical wisdom of this. And I have been a practicing Buddhist for many years, now..But what if that "object to hold from one's greatest compassion..and thusly; "care for" had such power of malevolence for whatever the reason within them, that they hurt you even more, if you were to embrace as to care for them, and they bit you, as a viper may, and cause you EVEN MORE HARM, and EMOTIONAL DEATH?

What's your opinion of this? Is it something we should do for the sake of compassion?Will one turn through compassion the Viper into a babe, and love you, or as you'd try to love IT, would you sacrifice yourself for its' unfortunate malevolent condition?

Opinions?

Thank U

According to the Dalai Lama :

When other beings, especially those who hold a grudge against you, (who would harm you) abuse you, hurt you, hold envy towards you, resent you, even hate you..you should not abandon, instead you are to hold them as objects of your greatest compassion, and take "Care" of them.

I understand the philosophical wisdom of this. And I have been a practicing Buddhist for many years, now..But what if that "object to hold from one's greatest compassion..and thusly; "care for" had such power of malevolence for whatever the reason within them, that they hurt you even more, if you were to embrace as to care for them, and they bit you, as a viper may, and cause you EVEN MORE HARM, and EMOTIONAL DEATH?

What's your opinion of this? Is it something we should do for the sake of compassion?Will one turn through compassion the Viper into a babe, and love you, or as you'd try to love IT, would you sacrifice yourself for its' unfortunate malevolent condition?

Opinions?

Thank U

I was visiting friends in New Jersey and Bev, my friend's husband says to me: "Hello, I am Spyke and I'm a "friend". So I say, being basically polite- 'Well, I'm a "friend" too!. And he says, 'no you are not'..and I say, 'Oh YES I am! Why are you allowing yourself to be the only "friend" here?' 'Because I am a "friend" and you are not..that's why!' So I take him on and I tell him, "well, now, you are pushing my basically good manners into quick extinction, here, "FRIEND", you ungrateful thing, you..BECAUSE I AM OFFERING that I am a "friend" too, FOOL!' So he tells me; 'Well you certainly sound like no "friends" as we are, you volatile little Cuban!' I am telling you as a fact that I am a "friend" but I know you are Not!' Well, by this point I ask him; 'You call yourself a "friend", tell me I am not, and also a volatile little Cuban, "FRIEND"???

Lo and behold, Bev BURSTS into the room, and tells me - 'No Greci, he means he is Quaker and you are Buddhist! Get it?'

So I say, oops, Sorry!

in order to SERVE REVENGE on a COLD PLATE???

1) Are they truly gaining anything by doing such a back stabbing thing?

2) The satisfaction they may claim to themselves attaining - is it really worth anything except cowardliness?

3) What type of person would you say would rather do this, than be straightforwardly confrontational, and deal with their anger or/and resentment at the time they feel offended?

4) If you ponder this seriously, what would be the hidden motivation for such a person, I've described, to work through his grudges, his hidden revenge - in such an unexpected ambush-like way?

5) Would you respect such a person's modus operandi as courageous?

6) or would you find it, cowardly a tactic, to exact revenge - or satisfy the reason HIDDEN behind his grudges?

LASTLY:

7) what kind of person would YOU rather be?

a) confrontational, so as to clear the situation promptly?

b) carry a grudge, through which serve your Vengeance as an unexpected surprise on a Cold Plate.

Thanks.

in order to SERVE REVENGE on a COLD PLATE???

1) Are they truly gaining anything by doing such a back stabbing thing?

2) The satisfaction they may claim to themselves attaining - is it really worth anything except cowardliness?

3) What type of person would you say would rather do this, than be straightforwardly confrontational, and deal with their anger or/and resentment at the time they feel offended?

4) If you ponder this seriously, what would be the hidden motivation for such a person, I've described, to work through his grudges, his hidden revenge - in such an unexpected ambush-like way?

5) Would you respect such a person's modus operandi as courageous?

6) or would you find it, cowardly a tactic, to exact revenge - or satisfy the reason HIDDEN behind his grudges?

LASTLY:

7) what kind of person would YOU rather be?

a) confrontational, so as to clear the situation promptly?

b) carry a grudge, through which serve your Vengeance as an unexpected surprise on a Cold Plate.

Thanks.

* Immoral?

and'

*amoral?

Would you provide an example of either/both states of being and behaviour, please?

Thank you!

Skydancer.

My question is this : What does a little girl of only 3 years old understand so well of compassion, when she is the one ill with cancer - who not only embraces her very sad mother, but has the GREAT HEART to pat her mother on the back, as her mother embraces her???

What does this tiny little girl understand???

It is such a sad commercial, that I can never make it through watching it.

There is; she is so small, no hair on her head, yet trying to be cheerful, sympathetic and compassionately courageous to

"MOM" - I often wonder what some people know, even if they are so young - one would wonder...how they can so fully understand another person's pain THROUGH AND THROUGH.

From what you've read from me, described HERE, What do you think this tiny, very young child UNDERSTANDS about another person's feelings toward her. Her Mom's pain, her sadness?

If she is so young to understand SO MUCH, why is it that others much older, supposedly wiser from Life Experience can or do not?

Thank You!

Not only that, but claiming that 1 stays in vogue with him, or of importance, if 1 shows a consistency, and constancy of being they'd have the RIGHT to approve. I knew a person like that, and he was a curiosity until he proved he wasn't being absurd as a play, but that in reality he needed to see such behaviour shown to him. If one didn't, then 1 was ousted from a small group of women he almost corralled as part of his emotional hareem.

Also he was highly vindictive, secretive and treated his life in relation to 1, as if it were a game forever played, where surprises were found anywhere, at any time, to test one of (I guess 1's loyalty and worthiness to him.)

I no longer deal with this person and am highly relieved, because as the acquaintance was reaching an inevitable end, I thought he was suffering from some mental disorder or illness. What amazed me the most, was: he NEVER EVER thought he was wrong - it was always the "other." And the punishment one would receive was diabolical.

Not only that, but claiming that 1 stays in vogue with him, or of importance, if 1 shows a consistency, and constancy of being they'd have the RIGHT to approve. I knew a person like that, and he was a curiosity until he proved he wasn't being absurd as a play, but that in reality he needed to see such behaviour shown to him. If one didn't, then 1 was ousted from a small group of women he almost corralled as part of his emotional hareem.

Also he was highly vindictive, secretive and treated his life in relation to 1, as if it were a game forever played, where surprises were found anywhere, at any time, to test one of (I guess 1's loyalty and worthiness to him.)

I no longer deal with this person and am highly relieved, because as the acquaintance was reaching an inevitable end, I thought he was suffering from some mental disorder or illness. What amazed me the most, was: he NEVER EVER thought he was wrong - it was always the "other." And the punishment one would receive was diabolical.

KEEN to recognize it, and put a halt to my feelings, and then..decided to move on.

If you've known a person who shows promise..but much more, at first; this PROMISE of self - of character and determination to support his words - THEN you discover that behind those words IS very little which would stand if it were to declare itself with truth, fact...what would you do, would you be strong enough to move on, no matter what investment you had at first set into it? Or would you go against your grain, and try to be sacrificial in order to change, then gain, what you already know, through MUCH PROOF, will always be inaccessible to you???

I knew a person, who'd impressed me, mainly through the weight he placed into his words. But his words were always approving of his behaviour; good or bad, and I was the one, he tried to convince didn't appreciate him, or the rather one sided criticisms he'd make of me, yet never of himself..would you have walked away as I did, or stay, hoping he'd change?

KEEN to recognize it, and put a halt to my feelings, and then..decided to move on.

If you've known a person who shows promise..but much more, at first; this PROMISE of self - of character and determination to support his words - THEN you discover that behind those words IS very little which would stand if it were to declare itself with truth, fact...what would you do, would you be strong enough to move on, no matter what investment you had at first set into it? Or would you go against your grain, and try to be sacrificial in order to change, then gain, what you already know, through MUCH PROOF, will always be inaccessible to you???

I knew a person, who'd impressed me, mainly through the weight he placed into his words. But his words were always approving of his behaviour; good or bad, and I was the one, he tried to convince didn't appreciate him, or the rather one sided criticisms he'd make of me, yet never of himself..would you have walked away as I did, or stay, hoping he'd change?

It is called "The Man Who Fell to Earth", starring David Bowie, who plays the part of an alien whose planet is in dire need of water. Somehow the earthlings abuse his innocence for he has come in peace asking peacefully for help as a representative of his planets' needs. But somehow he is so mistreated that at the end the character played by Bowie; the alien, is just sitting there looking totally depleted of energy or the need to carry on and through toward his mission. This film was made by a Science Fiction writer named Robert Heinlen, I believe. I never read the story though...

Does anyone know if you've watched the movie or read the story, what at the end happens to the alien.

How has earth and earthlings have depleted him so entirely?

Does he die? How else is he impacted so that he appears a totally lost and conquered being?

If anybody knows the out come of the man who fell to earth, would you explain what happens to him???

Thank You!