Nano

There"s a verse in the bible that says God spreads out the sky over empty space in the north. In our southern hemisphere there is whats known as the 'great void of space' which is 300 million light years across. Before you call BS! on the north/south difference, consider that even science knows we've been through a pole shift. A pole shift would explain the erratic circumstances that led to the flood as well as Pangaea breaking up shortly after when God conveniently 'scattered' the people along with it. Meaning biblical north would be our near south now. What say you, anyone?

The bible says the earth groans because it was innocent of our sin, but must still house us until the end. Sucks for the earth right? Maybe its a new phenomenon because the earth just can't deal anymore. Sign the end is nearing?

So, I read the other day that the oldest living tree is 4500 years old and going. The oldest tree found in all the glorious fossil record is 1500 years old. Now if the earth was 4.5 billion years old, wouldn't we find just one tree in record older? (Subnote: The time from creation to the flood...about 1500 years, the same as the recorded oldest tree fossil. Time from the flood to now, about 4500 years.)

What say you about the prehistoric fish Coelacanth which everyone thought was extinct before they pulled one out of the ocean completely identical to the fossil records dated "millions" of years old?

Because I think the fish WAS 'extinct', but because of God's awesome "know-how" in making variety within one's kind, its totally possible for 'extinct' variations to resurface through living relatives...

If so, what is your take on it? Does it seem in truth when measured against the bible?

Just think about all the ancient architecture that exists that modern man can still not erect with his modern machines. Consider the unfinished obelisk in Aswan, Egypt. Do you really think ancient men stood things like this up with a rope and pulley?

Genesis calls them Nephilim; the offspring of angels and the daughters of men who were abominations to God, and who got out of control. This was just before the flood...hmm. What do you think?

How has a belief in hell become so entrenched in christianity? It drives me crazy! So much scripture says the unrighteous go back to the ground! God even told Adam he'd go back to the ground, not to hell. Only two scriptures I can think of elusively describe something like hell...and the one that you're thinking of says, "the SMOKE of their torment goes on forever" (not the torment). Torment means mental aguish, like when people realize they're wrong and are about to die forever.

Scriptures which supports no hell: Gen 3:19; Ps 146:4; Ezek 18:4; John 12:25; Oba 16; Ps 1:4; Malachi 4:3; Ps 37:20; Matt 10:28; Gen 3:4

That's a lot, right? I know we're all sinners, but how can so many of us say we truly follow God's will when so many of us are hoping and waiting to throw our fellow man into a furnace for eternity? Seems like Satan's pulling the wool down again. Your thoughts?

Disclaimer: I apologize for the subtle word choices in advance that make me sound condescending, that's not my intent. I see the world through a creationists eyes, but value others opinions.

At what point in evolution would plants and animals seperate? Was the alleged "primordial goo" probably plant or animal? In either scenerio, how could they split into nearly opposite life forms which are dependent on each other to survive?

Gen. 7:11-...all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.

I see that science is desperately trying to kill the canopy theory...but how about that new discovery of giant oceans in the earth? It just seems there's a tendency for the bible truth to snub scientific discovery, and not the other way around...

Earth's hydrolic cycle: Bible-Job 36: 27, 28 (written somewhere between BC 1800-200) /Scientific discovery: 17th century by Edme Mariotte and Pierre Perrault.

Wind currents: Bible- Ecclesiastes 1: 6 (written BC 450-180) / Scientific discovery: Christopher Columbus 1461-1506 (theory); Thor Heyerdaul 1970 (proven)

Ocean vents and trenches: Bible- Job 38: 16/ Scientific discovery of ocean vents: Bob Ballard and team 1977. Scientific discovery of ocean trenches: Challenger expedition 1875

Seems like science is taking credit for what God already told us a long time ago. Nothing wrong with science, but maybe people should stop looking at the creation, and start seeking the creator.

I don't really believe in evolution, so I haven't looked into it much, but believing God put mysteries in front of me I feel I have to investigate. How did certain plants such as tomatoes become dependent on bees to pollinate them. And the same as the vine that is dependent on a tree to live? These things couldn't have evolved at the same pace to be symbionic, so if the dependent thing was ever independent, how could evolution dictate it's decline to dependency?

How many fish flopped out of water with gills and nearly suffocated before making it back to the water and passing on a tiny tolerance for air over and over and over before the first one could survive on land and/or how many fish with a lung mutation drowned underwater before successfully making it to land? Could you please explain how any animal in an intermittent stage has a leg-up in surviving and passing it on? It seems birds for example are at a disadvantage with wing nubbins...having no usable limbs or wings to fly? Wouldn't that weaken their rate of survival?

If non believers are "open minded" as they claim, will any of them admit the possibility of God?

Job 36: 27,28- mentions the earth's hydrolic system.

Ecc. 1:6- mentions the earth's air currents.

Psalms 8:8- mentions ocean currents.

Job 38:16- mentions oceans vents.

Gen. 17:12- mentions the later medically proven fact that on the 8th day of life prothrombin is more abundant than any other day in life.

It seems like science takes a long time catching up on what God already told us. Is that plagiarism?

Not one lick of concrete evidence that disproves God. What up with that?

Do you believe in aliens? That they abduct us? Interbreed with us? Experiment on us? Because if we just rose up by chance, isn't it just as likely?

Scientists found plant specimens buried under ice of antarctica found nowhere else. Furthermore, science declares first humans sprung up from Madagascar, which would have been connected to Antarctica on Pangea.

When God WAS in charge of this world, things were perfect. We disobeyed, opting to govern ourselves, and handed this world to Satan. That's why bad things happen. Not our God's fault, our fault. And still He loves us enough to send a volunteer...Jesus, like a bridge over a chasm created by sin. All we have to do to return to Him is walk the path He laid down for us. Everything about existing is pretty miraculous to begin with. Why is believing a higher being than us such a stretch? Non believing seems a defiance of natural law, not a unity with it.