God's Father

ie: If someone has a so called 'bad soul', that wants to choose to do bad things, is because God made it that way, or because he used a random soul generator, and God had no idea how the soul would turn out before he created it?

If not, how is possible for anything 'good' to go 'bad', under God's watch?

What force, outside God makes things 'bad', that used to be good?

And was that 'force' created by God, or was it created by some other god?

If you think God doesn't need a creator but the universe does, would you say that God is more complex and intelligent than anything in the universe?

If so, does that mean that a very complex and intelligent thing doesn't require a creator, but something less complex and less intelligent does require a creator?

Or was it a finite amount of time?

ps: If you think God is somehow 'outside of time', then don't claim he has always (or forever) been around. Saying 'always' or 'forever' implies time is involved.

...or do complex things not need a creator at all, and the idea that they do, is absurd?

...or the free will of the person being murdered, to allow them to avoid being murdered in such a situation?

Whenever you say 'God loves you' or 'God loves everyone' to unbelievers, what do you actually mean by that?

When a human loves another human, the feeling of 'love' can cause them to do favourable things to this person, to look after them, to do things that help and make them happy etc.

When an unbeliever is being abused, tortured, raped, killed, or suffering in any way, then what is God's love actually achieving in these situations?

When you say 'God loves you/everyone', are you simply saying that whilst an unbeliever is going through theses things, God is simply watching, and feeling a pleasant feeling of 'love' for the abused/suffering unbeliever, with a smile on his face?

When he's watching unbelievers suffering and being abused, do you think he's saying to others in heaven 'I really love this person, it's a shame they have to go through this, I wish things could have been different'.

Or if he's watching an unbeliever get murdered, does he say to others in heaven 'it's sad, but there's nothing we can do about it, and it's more important we give free will to the murderer, than stop the unbeliever being murdered'.?

...would you say that this is good?

If he said 'I'm allowed to do this, because I'm God, and thus this isn't a sin for me to do this - it's good', would you agree that it is good?

Would you tell one of his victims that what had happened to her was good?

And before you moan about this question, don't forget how many millions your god has killed. Don't have double standards by having no problems with your god killing people, but having problems with me even asking this question.

We need to know if your God doesn't respect faiths and god's he doesn't believe in, so we can apply the same moral standards as him.

Be honest, if you think God treats unfavourably, those who believe in faiths and gods that he doesn't.

.....are you claiming God is not omnipotent, and is unable to convince everyone of his existence?

Or did you not actually think about that when you thought or said it, and were instead trying to make the point that God seems to have made people in a way that they can't believe he exists, no matter what evidence he supplies?

...and telling you Islam was the correct religion, would you assume that:

A: you were hearing things that weren't there?

B: Someone was tricking you by pretending to be Allah?

C: Allah is real, and Islam is correct?

If you saw someone claiming to be a prophet of Allah, and given some of his divine powers, and you watched him perform seemingly magic tricks, and seemingly heal a few people, would you assume that:

A: This 'prophet' was lying, and just doing illusions like any magician, and was using stooges to 'heal'?

B: The prophet was genuine, and Allah is real?

If you are Muslim, then you can answer the same question by swapping anything Christian related above, with anything Islam related. If you follow any other religion...you can replace anything Christian related above with your own religion.

....or things that God wouldn't like?

Or did he not create EVERYTHING?

Are you saying you didn't just believe from the evidence that was presented to you?

You basically didn't believe one minute, and then you said to yourself 'I'm going to choose to make myself believe!' and then you believed?

Are you saying the only way you can believe in your God is by telling yourself to believe he's real?

Or can you not HELP but believe he's real due to the evidence, and you're being hypocrites, KNOWING YOURSELVES that god is real, without doubt, yet saying that unbelievers should somehow magically make a 'choice' to believe he exists, when really, you know deep down they are unable to do so, and you haven't had to go through this 'choosing' process?

I'm not asking whether he wants everyone to follow and worship him - I'm asking whether he wants everyone to know he exists - to be as sure as YOU are that he exists.

If he does want this, then why does he not make more effort to let unbelievers know he exists (or create them in a way that they'll believe he exists)? He's omnipotent enough to make his existence realised to unbelievers is he not, despite how 'blind' to him they might currently be?

Can anyone who can see, truly deny they believe the moon is real, for example? Can they truly believe there aren't rapists and murderers in this world, however much they may not WANT them to exist?

If he DOESN'T want everyone to believe he exists, then what steps has he taken to enable that some people will be unbelievers? ie: Not providing enough evidence? Or making some people too intelligent to blindly believe in him without proof, etc?

...did you choose to believe, because you already believed?

Or did you choose to believe, despite NOT believing? ie: Did your brain think 'I don't think there's a god, but I'm going to choose to believe that Christian God is real, even though nothing is convincing me', and suddenly you believed?

And how do you think people choose to not believe? That can only be possible, using your magic method, IF unbelievers already believed, and then made the choice to not believe. But why would someone who believed, make the choice not to believe?

If not, then why not create all humans in a way that they always desire to use their free will to choose to do the right thing?

How is it fair to create beings that fall short of you, and then blame them for falling short of you?

How would you not be free to do 'what you want' (assuming we could physically do it), if God had made us all want to do good things?

God gives SOME of us desires to choose to do bad things over good - so you say they have free will when they choose to do bad things.

God gives SOME of us desires to choose to do good things over bad - so you say they have free will when they choose to good things.

God gives ALL of us desires to choose to do good things over bad - and suddenly you claim we don't have free will if we were all to choose to do good things.

You're not making any sense. Either in all three examples you can claim we'd have free will - or you have to accept we don't have free will in any of them.

You can't say 'if 50% of us desire to do good over bad, that means we all have free will, but if 100% of us desire to do good over bad, then none of us have free will'.

Couldn't he make all souls good, so they'd desire to use their free will to choose to do good things?

Being free to do 'what we want', doesn't really absolve God, considering he's the one that created 'what we want'.

If he created all souls with desires to do good, then we could still be free to do 'what we want', we would just happen to want to do good things, and would use our free will to choose to do what we want - ie: good things.