Music graduate school students or graduates, what would you do in this situation?

I recently started graduate school on an assistantship. I found out some things that I had no idea was going on with the full time status. The graduate program is new, and boy does it show. I have been bounced back and forth since school started. I can't access my financial aid money. Every time I ask them is there anything else I need to do, they tell me no, only to find out there is more for me to do AFTER THE FACT. I've been promised the aid several times in the last couple of weeks and still no access. This is after I have asked several times will I have access to the funds once I started school. Of course they tell me everything is fine. Only for me to find out its not.

In addition, I am the only grad student with kids, and I feel as if the program is too much like an undergraduate program. I am taking graduate level classes with undergraduates. The exception is graduate students get extra papers or other things here and there. I find out things that I have to attend AFTER my schedule is finished. Not only that, but I had no say in scheduling my classes. I still don't understand that. Luckily, I got the voice teacher I wanted, but I had no say in that (I was supposed to). People have been constantly telling me one thing, only to find its something else. My husband is having issues with his job here (that's a whole new story that actually isn't his fault). I guess that is just how this small town runs, and it is annoying.

My assistantship, when I applied for it, said 4 hours of work. Now, on the website it states 4, but they are making us do 6 ours. I find that odd. Being the fact that the school will not let me access my money, I will be behind on bills. I am taking a job. However, this graduate school program is so close to an undergraduate ideal that it will be impossible for me to take on another job unless it is a church job. I am required to attend all these functions, take role, and I have no freedom. I don't know how they are going to cast me for the upcoming opera, because I am so ahead of everyone else in my studies (since I have been doing operas, oratorios, and recitals before hand). Thank God I have a great teacher, but I am beginning to wonder if I've made a mistake. Now don't get me wrong, I expected grad school to be extremely hard and painstaking. But a friend of mine working on her doctorate told me the things that I've told her shouldn't be going on in a graduate level. I've drug my whole family here, quit a GREAT job, left my singing connects for a school that I am not sure can give me what I need. I thought I did my research. You know, schools always MAKE themselves seem attractive and pretend to offer accommodations that they can't just to get you hooked.

Am I overreacting? I know there are other grad students complaining, but theyare only mumbling among other grad students. I have been vocal about it, but then again I am the only one with kids. I feel so bad about my decision now, and I wish I would have applied for the other grad schools. I was hoping that this school would give me more of an intimate setting for classes since my undergrad was pretty large in number. However, my undergrad was much more organized and realistic. I am thinking to reduce my classes and take the minimum amount, get a job, and look to Boston University, except it would mean I would take music education (I am sure some of you have heard of that program). I can always continue to study with my teacher, and continue to work in the professional world. The biggest issue is since the other voice grad student hasn't really had a career as I have (she's only been out but 2 years), I am the only person thinking things are redundant, and you shouldn't have to tell a graduate student to do these things. Please tell me if I am in over my head. If you have experience, any thoughts?

2008-08-27T03:39:39Z

Wirechoir, did you do Boston University online? Since I am stuck in these woods with a year long apartment contract, I can't just up and move. I am considering taking that graduate program while studying with my current voice professor. I'm so mad, I could spit fire. LOL!

And I've gotten some great responses by you all thusfar. I appreciate these and the new ones to come.

2008-08-27T10:11:26Z

To Edik: Thanks for your reply. However all of those things about hours and other issues I have addressed. I am not in danger that way. Where? Well e-mail me and we can talk about that. I posted this question here because music graduate school is so different from others (for example, my girlfriend has a masters in consumer blablabla, and she only needed 6 hours for full time and assistantship). You know how music is so out of the norm for most grad programs, that's why I posted it here and also to see what others in my area had experienced. Sometimes the higher education section is too random.

2008-08-28T06:12:18Z

Mamianka- THANK YOU. I agree, but I thought perhaps I could have that education to back me up while I continued to study with my professor. That way I can have some type of study until I looked into another performance program. The great part out of my school deal is, I am training with someone who really knows my instrument and he is what I was looking for in my studies. I'm still on the border line. I went to talk to someone in another office, and they told me some wise things to do. Also, after I threatened to drop my classes to just enough to be full time, and that I might not make it through and I would need a part time job, my professor contacted the head over grad studies (who I really couldn't get moving like I needed) and lo and behold. In less than 24 hours, my check was ready. Isn't that ironic? So at least I had someone in my corner. Keep us in your prayers. They have changed some rules without documenting it, so I talked outside of the department for counsel.

2008-08-28T06:14:53Z

However they are going to need to shape up some things if they want to keep valuable grad students. And we are a sharp group as a whole. They need to accommodate us as well as we are accomodating for them.

2008-08-28T17:23:09Z

Tahitipo or whoever you are- Don't you think I've done all those things? Also I am not a granny slow typer. I type rather fast, unlike those who think a couple of typed paragraphs takes 12 hours of their lives. Just because it took you 12 hours to type your response doesn't mean it took me 12 hours to type mine.I guess you're still burned by a comment I probably made in the past about your sour attitude. Get over it. You don't like my question, don't answer it. It wasn't a question for your kind anyway.

Thanks to the rest of you EDUCATED musicians who have something valid to say and have REAL careers.

Edik2008-08-27T08:31:03Z

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This is a big frustration, I'm sure!!

Honestly, the best thing you can do is to get out. This school obviously does not have its act together. Can I ask where this is? (I understand if you don't want to share that information)

If you do want to stick it out, at least for the year, here are some things to think about.

*Set up a meeting with the college/university's dean of graduate studies. If they have a graduate program, then there must be SOMEONE who knows what's going on -- they can't all be as clueless as the people you've had the misfortune of dealing with.

*In my experience (and the experience of many others I've known), you can't usually get assistantship money unless you're a full-time student. At the graduate level, this might be as few as 9 credits...but obviously, this could vary depending on the school. Your assistantship hours do not count towards this.

*It's not uncommon at all for your assistantship to say "X hours" and actually require "X+Y hours." It's unfair, but that has been the norm from the people I've known (including myself). Graduate assistants are looked at as cheap labor, let's face it. And if you're a teaching assistant, you might have "X hours" of teaching duties...but then, just like public school teachers, you have to put in "y additional hours" of your own time grading papers, preparing lessons plans, etc.

I would say that, if you're going to stay in this program, the first thing you need to do is locate some written documents (do not accept word-of-mouth...obviously that hasn't been doing much good for your situation so far) that tell you the requirements for financial aid, whether that be need-based, scholarship-based, or in payment for assistantship duties. How many credits do you need to carry? Where do you go to file your W4, I9, all that good stuff? When is the (first) disbursement date for funds? Who do I contact if I don't receive the money promised me? etc

I should ask, at this point, what does the document that you signed say? You should have been given some sort of paperwork where you accepted financial aid and/or this assistantship. Make copies of that document and carry it with you to every meeting you have.

I hope this helps in someway. I really think that your best bet might be to cut your losses, get out of the program, get a job that will help you pay your bills until your apartment lease is up (unless you can get out of it early), and apply for more established schools for next year.

Good luck!!


PS-- you also might consider posting a similar question in the Higher Education forum on Y!A. It doesn't sound like your situation is necessarily limited to music study...maybe someone there can help more.

wirechoir112008-08-27T02:27:17Z

You poor thing. These people are probably not TRYING to ruin your experience, they are just incredibly disorganized and ruining things for you is a side effect. Here's what I think:

Grad School for musicians is where many people spend the big bucks and go for the best experience they can get. If you are looking to enrich through grad school, you need to pick a reputable school that runs itself well. I don't know where you are, but if the treatment you are getting is typical, then you should get out. I got my Masters to fill a requirement quickly, so I did it online. When I decide to get another one (and I want to), and I can take my time, I will get it somewhere worthwhile.

It sounds like you need to find another school. One that is run more efficiently, and one that can match your current abilities. Your private studio can have undergrads in it, but your courses need to be for graduates only. If you are ahead of everyone else to the point where you don't know where you'll be palced for the opera, then you need to leave. If you've discovered that you are such a big fish in such a small pond this early in the year, that is not a good sign.

Alberich2008-08-26T20:43:03Z

I've never been a grad student; tried for 6 yrs. to obtain an undergraduate degree, but only succeeded in acquiring something like 83 towards the necessary 120 before dropping out; and this was years ago.

But sounds to me like you're being given the royal run-around; and I would opt out, as soon as it's financially and academically feasible for you.

Seems the primary business principles nowadays, are deception and deceive; as long as it produces an extra buck: academic institutions, no exception.

Really feel for you. And no, you're not in over your head; you've just "been taken", thru no fault of your own. You sound like a very mature, wise but unfortunately, too trusting a human being.

Much good luck, and keep trying: don't give up your educational goals; am sure your family will be understanding and as helpful as they can.

Alberich

Anonymous2016-04-10T11:23:15Z

I think there are those that graduate and can't read some of them have no math skills they could care less..the parents and teachers can't be blamed all the time..you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink..if a high school kid doesn't show interest after being encouraged what's left but to turn him/her loose..

geekchick2008-08-26T20:49:16Z

First of all, write every experience down in a journal and date it. Document every discrepancy, everything that they told you that hasn't happened, every time you've been asked to do something extra. Keep each item separate so that a stranger with absolutely no experience and without the ability to talk to you to clear up any misunderstandings can follow it easily.

Second, go outside the university community, take your documentation with you, and get legal advice. Do not go to anyone connected with the university itself (since so-called "confidential" counseling will be repeated back to the people who are giving you trouble). If necessary go to another town or get advice by email.

A lawyer can advise you much better than we can, and many will offer to listen to your story for free.

I've been through this myself, so you have my sympathies! Good luck!

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