a poster here has a rant on signature of how show breeders only want the $50,000 for BIS. I think they are on crack! any show I know of BIS gets a rather big ribbon (with no intrinsic value) name on a trophy they DON"T take home,and maybe something like a silver plated tea set (usually worth maybe $100). certainly that kinda $$ is not frequent enough to aim a breeding program toward , was it even EVER offered?
2010-01-27T09:52:12Z
edit details -now I have the westmisnster premium in my hot little hand: BIS gets name on two trophies (three if americain bred) - none of which they keep, a crystal cup and a big purple & gold ribbon, $0 - sorry to break THAT illusion there are schollarships (top $6,00) for junior showmanship- guess you'd do better breeding kids than dogs.....
Anonymous2010-01-27T09:25:15Z
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Check this out.
Last weekend I WON A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 ribbons valued at .69 each. That is almost SEVEN DOLLARS!!!!
It only cost me over $100 in entry fees, $120 in gas to enter.
I will say that a good aquaintance of mine WON Eukanuba National Championship with her dog a few years ago and there is a $50,000 prize for the Best in Show.
HOWEVER that did not begin to touch what it had cost her over the years to campaign and advertise that dog.
ADD: I edited this as it had a "Spoiler" in for those of you who do not know who won the 2009 Euakanuba Championship
"Long Beach, Calif. (Dec. 14, 2009) – Earning a $50,000 cash prize and the title of Best in Show at the AKC/Eukanuba National Championship was CH ..................."
Like Basset I have a LOT of crystal... as well as a bunch of tchotchkes won by various dogs over the years - I'm certain that when I die my kids will either toss most of it in the garbage or have a garage sale where everything is 50 cents.
I don't know how much is offered at Westminster - I'm sure it's a large amount but I have a better chance at being struck by lightning than winning that (partially because it's seriously HARD to get an entry in to it unless you are in the top 5 of the breed which would cost me WAYYY more money in entries and travel than I can afford and partially because I'm not "known", a pro handler, "on the circuit" or any of the other things that might help).
Even if I WON a huge amount -- the reality is I've spent more on dogs and dog shows than I can ever make up. Taxes would grab a third of it right off the top -- leaving me with 33.5K - just to TRAVEL to Westminster and stay at a hotel would cost me about 3 grand. Which leaves just over 30K to cover the thousands a year that I spend showing dogs ....
,,,, did I mention? -- heading to a dog show next weekend - travel costs should be around 2K - *IF* the dog wins I'll get a COOL big ribbon, some tchotchke that will someday be tossed in the garbage by my kids, a photograph and bragging rights - YAY! My Brat won that show twice - I'm really not even certain where the tchotchke is......
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As far as the rant - my mother always said it makes little sense to argue with the delusional.
Edit: For those who don't know:
Eukanuba - By invitation only (other than this the anniversary year).
To be invited you must do one of these things: Have a dog you finished entirely from the "Bred By" classes Have a dog who won a BIS Have a dog who is ranked in the Top 20 for bred (yes, I've done this but someone ELSE paid the travel expenses and the entries **AND** I had a job that allowed me to go to a LOT of shows).
The average person who shows does NOT get invited to Eukanuba.
I had an email conversation last week with someone about the little signature rant.. she went and did the research...
Westminster does not even pay out cash prizes
Eukanuba is the ONLY one that has that big prize.. and like someone pointed out, you have to work your way up to even get INVITED to that show! Chances of winning the prize once you even get there? Consider there's well over 100 breeds represented at the show, and several dogs in each breed competing.. your odd of getting BIS to win that prize is less than 1%!
You know what would be nice? BoB get their entry fee returned. Now that would be nice.
I haven't had a BiS yet. BiSS, but no BiS I have a dog who I put all of my hopes and dreams into, because he was going to be my Best in Show dog, and he was really backing it up with several BoBs, and never taking less than Best opp as a puppy (Once best opp over a special at a specialty show out of the puppy class!), but then I put him away to grow up, and he injured his knee (strained tendon, nothing tore or anything), so he looks a little funky in his movement in one leg from behind. His side movement is fine, but that one leg... Ugh. It's been improving, but I'm not holding my breath.
But I think whatever her name is now just does it to piss some of the people around here off. Surely she's not that stupid to believe that every single show gives that money out for BiS. Kennel clubs are poor as it is, how in the world would they afford something like that?