Lindzen agrees with a strong WV feedback -- who disagrees?
In his most recent paper (2010), "Can thin cirrus clouds in the tropics provide a solution to the Faint Young Sun paradox?", Richard Lindzen notes the following
"Recent studies suggest that the strong positive water vapor feedback implied by the invariance of relative humidity may be within reasonable agreement with satellite observations [Dessler et al., 2008], even though the vertical profile of relative humidity is not strictly conserved."
By Dessler 2008, he's referring to:
http://geotest.tamu.edu/userfiles/216/Dessler2008b.pdf
Which studied satellite trends in humidity over the period 2003-2008. They find a strong positive feedback consistent with a constant RH, as predicted by models.
Soden 2005 studied 22 years worth of satellite humidity, and also found roughly constant RH:
http://www.gfy.ku.dk/~kaas/Bornoecourse/Material/soden.pdf
On the other hand, we have Paltridge 2009 which uses the NCEP reanalysis and finds not only a decreasing RH, but a decreasing q, and thus, a negative WV feedback.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/m2054qq6126802g8/
But, as mentioned in the study, the NCEP reanalysis has known problems with model bias, and radiosondes have issues with instrumentation changes and poor ocean coverage.
Now that Lindzen is on board with a strong WV feedback, are any scientists left? Is anyone skeptical of Lindzen's position?
I can get the full papers through my school. I'll look around to see if I can find an online copy.
I could provide a screenshot of the page with the quote if you'd like. I don't think I can legally post the whole paper, though.
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Dana,
To me, the quote on its own sounds like Lindzen is acknowledging the evidence for a strong WV feedback. But, just to give you more context, the paper does not discuss the water vapor feedback at any great length, but through the majority of it, Lindzen's model assumes an invariant RH. When discussing whether this assumption is reasonable, Lindzen cites Dessler08.
Bravo,
I don't doubt that Lindzen believes in net negative feedbacks. The WV feedback is but one of many feedbacks, and he's sure that clouds will more than compensate for it. But I think Lindzen confuses short-term feedbacks (scale of decades to millennia), which must be net positive to explain things like D-O events and transitions to and from glacial periods, with feedbacks that act on much longer scales, which must be negative to explain why the Earth didn't become an ice-cube.