Is anyone else really disappointed with the Bushmaster ACR?

We got two into the shop a few days ago.... My first time to really be able to spend some time taking one apart and getting to know it.

It's just the basic model, since the deluxe one isn't out yet.

I just can't say I'm all that fond of it... Why?

-Lot's of plastic, specifically of critical parts such as the receiver and fire control group. Stocks should be plastic to save weight... Vital parts should be of something more substantial. Anyone who sees my answers knows I'm not a traditionalist by any means... Give me polymer and aluminum. But, polymer on important things... I don't feel we're ready.

The polymer leads to two additional concerns.

-How did they manage to make it so heavy? Good grief. You might as well be carrying an M1 Rifle. With such an extensive use of polymer, shouldn't it be light?

-I thought polymer was supposed to be cheap? At ~$2500... That's not cheap at all.

In addition, I have other complaints...

-Ambidextrous safeties are so uncomfortable. They rub against the index finger of my fire control hand. Very uncomfortable. Make it in available option... But it shouldn't be standard.

-Disassembly isn't quite as intuitive as an AR15. It isn't terrible, and I'm experienced enough that I can basically figure it out based on my knowledge of "the way things are". To others, though, this may not be the case.

-The stock is too short. I'm beginning to become very annoyed with the "tactical" community, in spite of my involvement in it. They make the stock short enough for use with body armor.... But what percentage of their customers are going to be using it with body armor with rifle plates? <1%? The average shooter buying one isn't using rifle plates.

-They didn't improve the extractor. Isn't that what we all complain about, extraction issues? Personally, I like the extractor of an AR15... But most people don't. I can't see why they didn't change that. (My reasoning is that it is better to have a double feed from a failure to extract, clear it, then extract manually.... as opposed to trying too hard to extract a stubborn case and tearing off the head, putting the rifle out of commission. Just my philosophy... I'd rather have two failures every 5000 rounds that are minor, rather than one disaster every 5000.)

-If you're going to have a proprietary bolt, why not bee fit up a bit? That's one of the few things I like about the HK416 style... They put a nice, chunky bolt in it that looks like it will live a long life. I mean, at least make the area around the cam pin a little bigger.

-The adjustable cheek weld is a nice idea.... But it seems gimmicky in the execution.

The barrel is where my biggest problems are...

-Proprietary? Ok, ok, it has a quick change feature.... So what? How often is that really necessary? An AR15 has a quick change barrel system, too... It's called a new upper. Two pins and it's a change over from .50BMG to .22LR in 15 seconds. It may have a little more weight involved, but not much more.

-Not chromed, and 1/9 rifling twist is the next problem. Chrome extends barrel life incredibly. 1/9 rifling doesn't allow use of the really nice defensive and match loads which 1/7 does. And, since they are proprietary barrels... you have to depends on Bushmaster for them, you can't change it yourself to whatever you want.


.... What do you guys think? Am I way off and this is going to be the next "big thing" or will it be unheard of in ten years.... I'm going with something in the middle. I think people will still be clinging to the concept 20 years from now, with some never willing to give up on it. Most people will see the price and just stick with an AR at 1/3 the cost.

.... And, the basic premise isn't impressive.... It's yet another 5.56NATO rifle with a 30 round magazine, and a piston system that is going to save the world.

Anonymous2010-06-12T16:55:04Z

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Just between you and me: I think the Bushmaster ACR is going to go down in flames. If you really want one, wait about a year, or so. Before too long I expect Bushmaster will be giving them away.

Overrated, overpriced, and overhyped - Period. (And from what you say, underbuilt, too.)

?2016-04-12T03:39:41Z

ACR is worthless, unless you happen to be left handed and appreciate the ambi controls. Even if you decided you needed a piston gun (WAY overrated!) and the prices were comparable ($1400 or so for the AR piston gun, $1700 for the ACR) the ACR can't do what it's supposed to be able to do: offer different barrels and calibers, because Bushmaster hasn't made anything other than the standard barrel. Go for a gas AR. If you have to burn the extra money, at least you'll have plenty of options.

Flammen Woofer2010-06-12T19:42:45Z

I was...big time. I liked the idea of the Masada, but when Bushmaster/Remington bought the design, neutered it, and then doubled the MSRP after it was featured in Call of Duty, all hope was lost.

"It's yet another 5.56NATO rifle with a 30 round magazine, and a piston system that is going to save the world."

You pretty much nailed it there. Not only is it "just another rifle" but it's a grossly overpriced rifle that has been hyped to hell and back.

It's definitely going to be on its way out long before the 10 year mark. Nobody is jumping to buy just another plastic rifle with no unique features or any track record to speak off. The only attention its getting right now is from Call of Duty fans and mall commandos but I doubt that's going to keep it alive for long.

Fatefinger2010-06-12T16:51:55Z

We knew it had these issues and was overhyped ever since it was announced. We knew why it was overhyped, because after reality set in the disappointment would assuredly hurt sales. That's why they had to make it $3,000. But that all is irrelevant to the frothing at the mouth fans who go after those who criticize its greatness.

It's like any other gun. It just had a lot of money spent on marketing. It's a waste.

Anonymous2010-06-12T16:42:08Z

If you read any of the gun comics and read their reviews, you'd think the ACR is the second coming of Christ Himself. Then of course you turn the page and see a full page ad for Bushmaster. Gee, biased much?

Colter I honestly think you have given the most fair and unbiased review of the ACR I have seen to date. I don't much care for them myself, I'm sure there's a whole gang of high speed low drag tactical types just itching to get their skinners on one though.

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