Feminists, does your vision of the future include any of these things? ?

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1) women having to sign up for selective service. (Do they? I hear it's a thing now. Not sure.)
2) women being drafted to fight in war. 
3) women having exactly the same rights as men. Not more. Not less. Not different ones. 
4) women working under the 'glass floor'. In sanitation, covered in crap. In lumberjacking, risking their lives. On skyscrapers, risking their lives. Etc. 
5) women being 50% of the prisoners. 
6) women having the same life expectancies as men. Not more. Not less. 
7) actually passing the Equal Rights Amendment.

Now, at a guess, your vision of the future does NOT include ANY of that and I think I know WHY. You don't think women are as capable as men. You think they need special protection. I really don't think you can deny that bit about women needing special protection since your entire movement is based on portraying women as VICTIMS.

But feel free to prove me wrong. Go ahead. Go for it.

ChemFlunky · Accepted Answer

1. Sure.  If Selective Service is still around, I think it should apply equally to both genders (though, honestly, I think it should probably be abolished, it's not even that helpful for what it's nominally for)

2. Sure, if there is a war that legitimately warrants using the draft.

3. I think there are some narrow, specific matters, mostly involving reproduction, where men and women should be treated differently, because of the biological realities of the situation.  Outside of that, sure.

4. Absolutely no problem with women doing those things if they want.  The thing is, men and women aren't identical, so it is likely that in a world with absolutely no true gender bias, there still would be some jobs (probably including things like construction) that "tend" male, because people with male bodies and/or male minds are more capable of or more willing to do them (similarly, there will be some jobs that "tend" female, for much the same reasons).  So it is likely that jobs like that will have somewhere between a 60:40 and a 75:25 gender ratio, rather than 50:50.

5. Again, men and women aren't identical.  I think there's a little bit of anti-male and/or pro-female bias in the justice system today, but I doubt that accounts for more than about 10% of the difference between male and female prisoner numbers.  There are a lot of other reasons for the difference, some of which (eg males tending to be more aggressive, because testosterone) will still be the case in a fair world.

6. Men and women are still not identical.  There are strictly *biological* reasons for differences in life expectancy.  If the reasons for a decreasing gap in male vs female life expectancies is for good reasons (eg more safety measures, so that jobs that tend "male" are less dangerous; advances fixing reasons men die young), then great.  If they're bad (eg higher maternal mortality), not so great.

7. Sounds good to me.

Not Applicable · Answer

To answer your question:
1) if there is a selective service, then women will likely have to sign up as well. If it isn't all outsourced to the drones.
2) See #1
3) Highly likely
4) Whatever jobs aren't automated away
5) Sure, unless we learn to do something beside incarceration, except for the more heinous of crimes.
6) Technology will likely increase the longevity of both men and women. Transhumanists say it won't be humanity versus the machine, humanity will become the machine. 
7) Possible, but even if it isn't, it will be fait accompli.

? · Answer

Women don't have to sign up for selective service. What happened is that the courts ruled that if another draft happens women have to be drafted too. No laws have been changed to reflect this ruling nor do any laws have to be passed to reflect it.

Anonymous · Answer

Angry white guy stuck in a mental loop.
Turns out your societal ideals are oppressive.
People want to smudge out your entire world view on both sides. People want to create better instead of being stuck in such black and white thinking.

nineteenthly · Answer

A lot of the things you mention are artifacts of the patriarchy.

Anonymous · Answer

1)  Yes (or make it voluntary for all)
2)  Yes  (or make it voluntary for all)
3)  No, that's not possible due to having different bodies.
4)  Yes
5)  Yes, if they commit 50% of the crimes
6)  Probably not possible as it depends on factors beyond government's control
7)  I don't care one way or another

"entire movement is based on portraying women as VICTIMS"   I agree that victim mentality is a big problem, but it really has nothing to do with feminism.   Just look at Trump.  He loves claiming he's a victim of the media, of Pelosi, of Schumer, of Cohen, Comey, of the left, of voter fraud, of anything and everything that absolves him of responsibility.   Victim, victim, victim...

Feminists, does your vision of the future include any of these things? ?

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