The Gay Animal Kingdom, was Darwin right about natural selection but wrong about sexual selection?

Power to the gay animals! I hope they rise up and kill the fundamentalists!

Gay Animal Kingdom

I had a thought. what if the human DNA could tell when the world is over populated and can make the adjustment. There is only 35 percent of the oxygen in the atmosphere and only 35 percent the nutrition in our food that there was at the turn of the 20th century, so I asked a friend,,. a non church going straight man who believes the world is over populated and does not want children, I asked what if homosexuality was an answer to population control, it's better than wars famine. And all sorts of natural disasters. He opened the bible to Romans 1:2_ and after some discussion and later that day he asked "why would god condemn gays if he created them? it doesn't make sense" I found that an amazing connection so many hypocrites at the podium can't make.I like it when things make sense and I want to clear up some confusion so listen up, this is the kind of stuff that holds up in court.There's only one place you can find any possible mention of this astronomical mistake, the only bigger mistake was the church burning controversial gospels in the second century. There is no backup or support to it anywhere else, it's not in all versions, there is no irrefutable evidence of this proposition and because of this mistake, the story has been largely misunderstood for a very long time. It is very important to keep in mind that Jesus never said a word about it, good or bad, and it's always best to follow his example and what's consistent throughout the Bible and all the versions, and remembered at the podium when speaking of Gods love for ALL his children, and if one says gays are not Gods children, one is taking an awful chance come judgment day and should remember Gods directive re judgment. These days there are acceptance issues and yes you can be gay and stay in complete abeyance of the Ten Commandments, Gods complete set of laws, nothing missing, and the complete moral code in a nutshell that says nothing about homosexuality, including those commandments pertaining to sexual morality. As long as a relationship is loving and committed it is good in God's eyes; moral and Safe, and those are the only two requirements for marriage and the rest can be extrapolated from that and Gods laws. To clarify, if it isn’t in the Ten Commandments you have to think twice if it's a sin and it still ain't.Also keep in mind there are extreme difficulties at times when translating and you can't help but loose something, i.e. an accent, an inflection . . .So in Genesis 19: there are two words in a list of sinners that the authorities could not nail, they are "Arsenekoiti" and "Malakos", so someone thought they were smart by putting in homosexual; not found in Gods laws, and look at the damage done!!! Now there are a bunch of gays believing a lie that they're sinners and the natural course of action is to forsake religion and find God's laws unworthy, and therefore, go ahead and sin perpetuating the gay stereotype of sex out of wedlock that people see when they read of sexual immorality in the bible, so now there is AIDS. I see two commandments pertaining to sexual morality, neither exclusive to gays but both apply to any lifestyle, one commandment redundant and neither mention anything other than sex outside of marriage. And more damage, our society has placed so much shame on it with so much ridicule that there are statistics on how many teens commit suicide after discovering their sexuality because it's such a disgraceful, despicable thing that you're better off dead!!! God sure has a lot of forgiving to do, how can he keep up? And further, you've heard, "I ain't crazy, I ain't seein' no shrink" Sound familiar? Perfectly Designed To Throw Shame In Getting Help Too! so the poor kids have no way out but the permanent way out! How much damage must our society destroy itself with shame? Statistic; 97% of all marriages could have been saved with a little counseling so there is more shame in getting help and less shame in getting a divorce!!! and you know how that affects our children too!So you see how people single this out and run with it and look how it got so blown out of population that people still have the crazy ides that the story is about a town full of homoes that want sex this guy who just blew in, sight unseen even, and this will look like a form of mass insanity, showing a low opinion and expectation of other people when you see the story is really about a traveler that came to a town that just didn't have the hospitality or courtesy to leave the poor sob alone to rest from his travels.Now consider this, the moral code has not changed in the time since the story, how could human behavior change so radically? How could there ever be a town of nothing but homosexuals? And at a time it seems that homosexuality was too rarely an issue?, So with the confusion over the word "yara," there are two reasons those people would be out there, one is to get to know him, the other is the whole town wanted sex with him sight unseen. The later sounds a little preposterous and the former is just human nature carried a little too far. Romans 8:28 PS Those who say homosexuality is unnatural sure don't know the birds and the bees and the rest of the animal kingdom too so don't forget they are God's creations too. And notice other cultures around the world where it is just as normal as the birds and the bees

How could evolution result in a kind of selection that would be harmful to the species' survival? We shouldn't be seeing this kind of behavior in animals. It however, seems more consistent with God's curse on creation for Adam's sin, as creatures become more and more imperfect and flawed. There has been no observed increase in genetic information that would lead a fish to turn into a philosopher, but only a loss or resorting of information. There would have been a corruption of animals' capability to select a mate properly.

However, it is also true that many "homosexual acts" in the animal kingdom is in fact nothing more than acts of aggression and dominion. Sometimes animals will mount others of the same gender to express their dominance over the victim. It is possible that what you are talking about is this kind of behavior. It is especially interesting that you say they were male, which would provide just the right conditions for aggressive acts of dominance.

Incredibly interesting. Astounding, actually. If you're free, email me some more about this. I'm interested. :-)

Personally, given the evidence... I don't think Darwin even came up with a theory of sexual selection. He only said that animals who are toughest in their own environments will survive for one of the sole purposes of their life, to procreate. Sure, you can assume that all the animals, including Humans, might as well be heterosexual in order to reproduce (excluding some natural quirks), but it doesn't mean they HAVE to be heterosexual by the psychological aspect of it.

After all, if a gay man were to have sex with a straight female and ejaculate in her vagina... and if she were to become pregnant... they would have had "heterosexual vaginal intercourse for the purpose of procreation," ...even though the man might've been gay and the female might've been straight.

Biologically... heterosexuality, homosexuality, or any other SEX or GENDER-GENDER RELATION is determined with who the individual engages in sex with.

Psychologically... heterosexuality, homosexuality, or any other SEXUAL-ORIENTATION / AFFINITY / PREFERENCE is designated to who "turns on" that individual.

Animalistically...? Who knows? Maybe the sheep might engage in gay anal sex just to establish some societal trust between members. They bond; you said it yourself. Probably homosexuality or heterosexuality when considered animalistically might only indicate how members bond or become closer with each other within their societies.

Darwin didn't indicate orientation. He probably didn't even really witness some animalistic homosexuality. But there was a good chance he knew about human orientative homosexuality. He might've just assumed that humans are orientatively homosexual. He probably thought that animals are only heterosexual because they want to procreate.

I'm not saying his viewpoints are false. They're true. But he might've forgot (or didn't even know) to mention animalistic and biological homosexuality. We've been proven, in our modern scientific age, that homosexuality is natural. There are gay and bisexual animals. We're constantly being told that humans and dolphins are the only animals who have sex for pleasure. I strongly disagree. Why do we see dogs going at it so much? They're FREAKIN' horny, that's why. Pigs' orgasms can last up to half-an-hour. All I can say is... WOW! You can't possibly convince me that animals don't only have intercourse for procreation. They do it because it feels good, too... which might explain why so many animals commit homosexual and bisexual actions. They look for a partner who's willing to go at it... and they do it. Rather promiscuous, but it's natural... I suppose.

Perhaps a natural homosexual tendency amongst a certain percentage of any give species is a built in mechanism to help control population growth. You know, keep the right overall head count and there's going to be more resources in the long run for everybody. I mean, even the strong can't survive if there's not enough food, etc. to go around. All of this sounds both natural and logical to me. ~ Peace & Blessings ~

Didn't know about the big horn sheep thing, but you are partially right. In many animal species that mate for life, you do occassionally, it's rare, otherwise the species would die out, find same sex pairings. Wolves, dolphins, eagles, hawks, falcons, etc., etc., all have the occassional same sex pairing, which means it ain't as unnatural as the fundementalist Christians woud have us believe.

This is wrong. God would never make gay animals.

Homosexuality is obviously a lifestyle choice. And animals don't make choices so there can't be gay animals. And God doesn't make mistakes.

Homosexuality is unnatural and only happens when men are taught how to be gay by corruptive gays.

God hates gays and and hates gay animals more.

Finally an article to prove this! I've been telling people that there have also been homosexual behavoir in animals ... but they're like no way... gosh those stupid idiots...

Maybe you should submit theory so you can argue Darwin