Why do goths have to deny that they're goth?

lol why does it matter anyway? i no wt ya mean tho a lot of them do deny they are but i guess it could b to do with not taggin yourself? maybe they think that how they dress is normal as it must b normal to them? i dno tho eh! x

I think the word goth carries connotations of being perpetually sad and depressed, obsessed with death, etc. And so maybe people like the style of clothing and the music, but don't want to give the impression that they're absolutely miserable, so they don't identify as goths. For some people it's more just a fashion than a lifestyle. I agree that it doesn't really matter anyway. Why do we always have to put people into catagories?

I can't speak for emos, but the deal with goths is this. Most self-described goths are in fact teenagers who just shop at Hot Topic. They've never listened to Sisters of Mercy, owned Siousixe & the Banshees album, or read Shelly. They're in it for the look, but go on and on about how being goth is who they truely are. Real goths, who have a different mindset from the rest of the population, along with a different dress code, do not want to be assoicated with the Hot Topic goths, so they do not refer to themselves as goths. Yes, they know they're goth, but going around and saying how different they are is pointless, and very childish to boot.

Don't worry about what people want to call themselves. It sounds like you're not very adept at identifying the lifestyles you're labelling here. As one friend of mine put it "I'm not a goth, I'm a metalhead." And he is. If you're hearing "screamo music" you're not looking at an emo for sure, and you're probably not looking at a goth, either. If you see somebody wearing black you may be seeing a goth, you may be seeing an emo, you may be seeing a rivethead, you may be seeing a metalhead, you may be seeing a juggalo, you may be seeing a beatnik, you may be seeing a latte drinking pseudo-intellectual, or you might be seeing somebody who simply likes black. There's a lot of overlap. Why not let people decide what they are? How is it your job? FYI, I'm a goth. Label me as emo at your peril.

I don't think it really matters. I mean a lot of my friends call me goth and have dubbed me "vampire queen"...hence my name.

but I don't really mind, it's amusing. In all honesty if anyone asked if I were goth I'd have to say no, although I listen to the music and other tell-tale signs.

Reason being: I don't think about it! I don't stroll around the halls thinking "oh...I'm so Goth." I mean, "Goths" are just people, like Punks and Preps, Jocks, Emo, ect..ect.

It's not necessarily "denying" being Goth, it's just who really cares?!

People have very different ideas of what 'goth' and 'emo' means. Goth is not punk. Metal is not emo. You just said yourself that they listen to different types of music. I don't understand why you think you can label them as one particular thing.

Do'ye see those replies from the people who are slamming on goths? The small minded fools who don't quite understand that someone may be a bit different, have a different sense of fashion and aesthetic? Those individuals who feel the need to slam such people due to some deep seated personal inadequacy?

I think their reaction should tell you more about why real goths don't go around labeling themselves than anything that any of us who regularly wear black, listen to alienated music and go to dance clubs after midnight ever could.

Cheers...

I accept as true with you. They comprehend their emo. they do only no longer prefer to admit it.I recommend please, Alesana, AFI, and Paramore, metallic? LOL. I only snigger each and every time human beings say that. they say their against conformism yet they shop at warm subject rely! hundreds of thousands of little ones shop there and purchase the comparable issues as another toddler that shops there. Non-conforming! LOL. I recommend heavily if their going to call themselves metalheads a minimum of comprehend approximately stable metallic bands. Its getting stressful. I hate while human beings call themselves metalhead, punk, or something like that so they might seem cool. I recommend come on. They in all threat don't comprehend actual metallic or Punk.

I'm pretty sure they know alot more about what they are than you.people say that i'm goth and i'm not.so I wear black and i love all that weird heavy and punk rock !Do you even know what goths are ?If they say they're not then they're not.Get over your self.You do not control them and what they are!Think about it!

For once and for all, dressing like a moron is NOT a lifestyle. It's a costume. People use it because they feel the need to call themselves "unique" by dressing exactly like millions of other idiots in costume.

Rarely does such a person refuse to take on the label. They dress that way expressly for the purpose of having that label. So I don't know what idiot you've been talking to, but I would expect most of those freaks to call their costume a lifestyle and insist that it was important when it wasn't. If you're dealing with people who claim their clothes do not define them, I'd say that's rare for the eye-liner crowd and good for you.