Why Is it not ok to disagree with homosexuality? Aren't we all allowed our own opinions. I definitely am

You can not disagree with homosexuality because it slaughters the English language. That is like trying to disagree with gravity. It can not be done.

The proper term to use and I'd sincerely appreciate it if you'd spread the word, is disapprove. To say you disagree with something that exists is an affront to my very existence and offensive to my auditory sense.

You can disagree with whatever you want, this is a free country. I'm not sure what the question is.... Tim Hardaway's problem was not that he didn't want to associate with gay people -- its that he wanted to segregate gay people. Those are VERY different things.

We (Jonathan and I) -- an Englishman and a Jew -- live in a primarily Italian neighborhood -- where we are accepted as we are. If there is someone who doesn't like us, that is their right. If they want to move away to somewhere that all the gays are closeted, that is their right, if they, however, start throwing bricks through our windows or shooting at us or at the tenants in the buildings we own (all of whom, as far as I know, are straight), or verbally abusing us on the street in an attempt to force us out of the neighborhood-- that is NOT their right.

America has been through this before. You talk about everyone segregating themselves away in your followups -- well I've news, not everyone does; and more often than not, it is socio-economic class, not racial or sexual. We have had no appreciable problems where we are -- but if we had elected to move up to one of the richer suburbs -- which we could afford to do but decided not to do because we support social equality -- no one would have blinked, even for a day. In your heart you know this to be true, I strongly suspect.

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Personally I don't have any problems with the gay community. I have a gay friend and I've never had a problem working with any of them. It's just their lifestyle that I don't approve of. No before everyone starts saying that I'm wrong for thinking the way that I do just listen to my argument. I am Christian above anything else, now I'm not overly religious, but the bible does state that homosexuality is wrong. Now I have two choices 1) I can choose to follow what God says or 2) I can choose not to listen to God's word to please the homosexual community. Those who claim to be real Christians tend to go with option #1. Now I'm not saying gays are bad people, I know for a fact that I am far from perfect. Gays or just like straight folks, some good and some are bad. Its just I to go with what the Bible says.

Now if your an atheist, then obviously what God has to say means nothing to you. But for those of us you proclaim to be Christians, there's simply no excuse for you not to follow the word. I find it amazing that someone can read the word abomination and can try to justify why it doesn't mean homosexuality isn't wrong. The last time I checked that word wasn't a good thing.

I don't want it to seem like I'm just picking on gays, because there are lot of things in Bible that tells us what we shouldn't be doing. And we just try to change the words up to justify our actions. Everybody wants to believe in the Bible, until they see something the speaks of they are currently do. The right thing to do would be to stop what your doing, but people would rather change the meaning and then spread the lie, which confuses everyone. If that's the case your better off disregarding the Bible all together.

My only question here is why you would say you don't want to associate with someone based on their sexuality. I can understand if you don't agree with homosexuality....plenty of people do. I don't agree with that line of thinking, but I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But I think that chosing not to associate with people of other sexual preferences is like chosing not to associate with someone of another race or nationality....it's wrong (in my opinion). If you aren't comfortable around gay people, that's fine, but can you at least admit that them being homosexual doesn't make them a bad person? Would you chose not to work somewhere because there were 1 or more gay people working there, or do you just chose not to be friends with them? I also wonder if the issue of associating with homosexuals is fear-related. Are people honestly afraid that homosexuality is some form of communicable disease?

The problem here is that if you choose not to associate with gays then I'm guessing that means you refuse to work with one. Since we're the minority does that mean we can't get a job working along side you? That would be Discrimination. You're entitled your own opinion but you can't infringe on our rights and freedoms in the process. We tolerate you just as much as you have to tolerate us. You can't just go apple picking who you will and will not associate with and expect to never have to associate with them. Are you intending on getting a restraining order against an entire orientation? Good luck with that, I'm sure you could think of all of the issues with that idea on your own.

By the way, I can give a reason why I'm a lesbian. I was born this way. I also have proof, the only choice here is whether YOU CHOOSE to believe it or not. I'll provide my proof just in case you care to read.

I just read the comments and Hardaway later apologized for these comments. The reason why Hardaway's comments were wrong is because it encourages people to be abusive to people who aren't like themselves. The truth of the matter is because the LGBT community doesn't have these letters tattooed to our forehead it is impossible to know with certainty who exactly is a member of this community by simply looking at someone. So you may be associating with gay people right now and be totally unaware of it. For example, the cheerful mailman who delivers your mail or the nice lady who serves you coffee in the morning might be gay and you wouldn't know for sure. It wouldn't be right to say you don't want to associate with them just as it wouldn't be right for them to not deliver your mail or spit in your coffee because you don't go to the same church as they do. There are many ways to separate ourselves into smaller groups and then exclude others from our lives who are not members of our particular group but as you do you isolate yourself more and more. Life is hard enough already without creating and causing problems for other people because they aren't enough like you. Try to live and let live, you will be happier for it in the long run.

You don't have to associate with anything that don't want to associate with.

I think it's close-minded to completely isolate yourself from an entire group of people, based on who they love, or date.

You do not have to accept all behavior, but it crosses the line, when you try to provoke a reaction, by talking negatively about gays....which I'm glad that you don't.

As far as the basketball player goes: He is able to associate or not associate at his discretion, with that said, he has the option of leaving the team.

To me, that's like saying, I choose not to accept black people, OR their lifestyle, so therefore, I don't want to work with any black people.

Well, that's fine, but, that is your perrogative, so no one else should be punished for your opinions. You have the choice of seeking out jobs that only cater to non-black applicants.

So really, your limiting yourself.

Because it's meaningless? Everyone who "disagrees" with gay people or the gay lifestyle has no plausible reason for doing so. And there should be no room for hate like that in the world today. I'd say at it's very best it's completely suppressed within a person and not practiced in public at all, but that's hardly good enough, as that person spreads their feelings to the people close to them, as well as their children. That NBA player is legally entitled to say whatever he wants, but we reserve the right to say whatever we want about him right back if he's going to start it ;)

EDIT: If you're going to "hate" me without even knowing me, or disapprove of the life I live (which harms no one), you damn well better have a good reason! That's all I have to say to that..

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with a particular lifestyle. I personally don't much like the lifestyle of some gay men and women, same as I don't much like the lifestyle of some straight men and women. But it is not acceptable or rational to 'disagree' with a state of being, such as homosexuality. You might as well be arguing that you should be entitled to 'disagree' with being black, or having ginger hair, or being short.

What if I stood up and said I don't want black people around me? Or Jews? "I don't have a problem with them, I just don't want them around me."

That just seems inappropriate to me, among other things.

If you'd like to rehash the nature-nurture debate as it relates to being gay, that conversation is best held over in the Psychology area, where the studies on both sides of the argument can be discussed by qualified people. Same for your claims that it is "medically/scientifically proven" that gay people can be made straight. (Personally, I can tell you that I tried it for years in therapy... pretty intensively, actually. I'm still gay.)

As for your point about people living in ethnic communities...

It's one thing to settle down with others who are like you because of your commonalities, but it's something else entirely to say that you don't want to associate with people who are different.

You absolutely are entitled to your own opinion. If you don't agree with my lifestyle, I don't have a problem with that. As long as you don't discriminate against people based solely on their sexual orientation. With that said, I don't need your approval or anyone else's for that matter. And if that basketball player doesn't want to associate with gay people, fine with me. But, to publicly announce it, just makes it that much harder for us. Unfortunately, people take the words of celebrities to heart.