2012 and J.R.R.Tolkien?

Dude, he didn't even like people saying it was about WWII. Leave the man alone.

Ok, I'm pretty certain the Maya never wrote anything about the "Harmonic Convergence Prophecy" and the "age of Materialism," considering they didn't have any such words. And when has the calendar itself made predictions? The calendar just measures time - it's the people who came up with the predictions. And Tolkein was so wrapped up in Norse mythology, I doubt he'd know a thing about the Mayans. I don't see any Mayan influence in his books.

The last thing we should do to save ourselves is return to nature. If we do that, and abandon all of our technology, not only will well over half the world's population die, but we could be wiped out by something very natural, like, say, an asteroid. We are no more in an "age of Materialism" than our ancestors were. Look at the pharoahs of ancient Egypt, and their tombs. If that isn't materialistic, I dunno what is. We have always treasured material posessions, for various reasons throughout time.

As for 2012... I'd be more worried about 2020-something if I were you. That's when the asteroid Aphophus passes so close as to dip below our communications satellites, and when it swings back around 7 years later, scientists aren't sure what it might do. At least it isn't an earth killer. People have been predicting massive, world-changing events like this since the dawn of civilization, and none of them have happened. We just want to see our own time as unique in some way.

truthfully, 2012 is actual. It comes after 2011 and before 2013. it is likewise real that there is a Mayan day-count extensive type calendar (utilized by utilising Mayan astronomers as much as around the 10th century) the place a date we call 2012.12.21 could have had a around parent (thirteen.0.0.0.0) interior the Mayan's extraordinary counting device. it is likewise real that presently after that date (someplace around February 2013) the area we call 'iciness Solstice' would be interior the direction of the Milky way (what we now call the Galactic equator). The Mayan astronomers could have regular that (interior the previous days, everyone knew with reference to the precession of the equinox, along with the Mayans, the Greeks , the Babylonians, the chinese language, the Indians...). it is likewise real that 2012 is an Olympic 365 days. --- something is crap. The sunlight would not line up with the Galactic centre (it could no longer). The planets do no longer line up (2012 is honestly a detrimental 365 days for planetary alignments). No asteroid on a collision direction. Planet X, Nibiru and Nemesis are innovations by utilising charlatans who had expected the top of the international for... 2003. Magnetic polarity reversals take 5,000 years on regular... and we are actually not even effective that the subsequent one has even began.

Calendars don't predict.

The Mayan calendar isn't ending.

11:11 a.m. on 12-21-2012 is simply the exact time of the solstice (GMT). The galactic alignment that day is at DAWN (7:14 a.m.)

Since it's only in the last 10 years that people started talking about this prophecy BS, it's doubtful that JRRT knew about it. I'm not sure the calendars had even been deciphered at the time he was writing LOTR.

I don't think that's likely.

But I've been thinking the same thing about Luthiel's Song lately. For example, the Mayans often speak of different suns. In Luthiel's Song there are two suns. One is Oerin's Eye -- an eliptical light of blue and silver. The other is Soelee -- a sun very similar to our own.

I haven't been able to confirm this and I've been trying to email the author -- Robert Fanney -- about it on his myspace page. But he must be very busy as he hasn't replied to me yet. But I don't think Oerin's eye is a sun at all. I think it is a visible galactic core.

I read somewhere about a theory that the galactic core becomes very bright for certain periods of time ranging from tens of years to about a thousand. This had something to do with X-ray emissions from the massive stars and/or black hole at the galaxy's center.

Maya myth mentions a bunch of crazy things that may be very similar. But I was especially struck by Cauthras which is a moon of Oesha in Luthiel's Song.

In the book, the moon burns on its day side and is cool on its night side. All of life on the moon is constantly fleeing the fires hiding in the dark.

This also reminded me of a Mayan myth that said the sun tipped over like a cauldron and spilled fire across the sky that eventually rained down on earth.

Now all of this is very unlikely in reality. But in fantasy it makes for some very cool reading. I just wonder if Fanney borrowed from the Mayans at all.

Personally, I don't think he was predicting anything. He never set himself up as a prophet.

A Christian, he did not embrace the magical world view about which he wrote. Tolkien was simply a folklorist turned novelist who drew heavily from many traditions in an effort to write entertaining stories. He said several times that his books just contained stories.

People also also saw some obvious parallels between the events in the book and the world wars and thought Sauron might have been HItler, but he said any parallels were wholly unconscious and unintentional, but perhaps he was unconsciously influenced by real events.

He wrote the original drafts as letters to his son, a combat pilot in the war.

What does LOTR have to do with this?

On second thought, NO, of course not, anyone who has read The Silmarillion (or other books in the LOTR universe) knows that there is no destruction at the end of LOTR. (plus he was Roman Catholic) Also, maybe the Shannara books are more probable, those are set in a world that has been destroyed (almost) ages before (magic and such now exist). Which is still not true. So, what does this have to do with anything?

Nice conspiracy theory, but I don't think so. Now, Nostradamus, THERE's a guy who can predict some crazy events! This sounds cool though, I wouldn't mind living in a LOTR world =).

Youre really weird. LOTR has nothing to do with this.