Free Will...?

Well, I thought that Jesus died to forgive everyone's sins. Since we are all sinners, of course. Anyway, as long as you accept him into your heart, your going to Heaven.

You are assuming that mankind is innocent, and this is a mistake that too many people make when they discuss theology like this. You have to look at it from a completely different angle, and that is a starting point of man being guilty before the Lord as a result of the fall of Adam. That makes us puppets, not for God but for Satan and the ways of the world. Therefore, if we all stand condemned before the Lord, it takes mercy and grace to turn us around, and God can therefore choose who He will save, and when he will save. Predestination, in other words.

Those he saves find a new relationship in him which means prayers that are listened to and worship that is acceptable to the Lord. Those that don't believe, like the ones to do believe, never would have believed, and therefore neither the saved nor the unsaved have anything to say in their defense. And this makes for the saved being quite humble about their salvation rather than a mistaken "I've been chosen and you haven't" attitude.

Free will and an all knowing god cannot coexist, simple base level philosophical discussion. One or the other, there is no way to finess this (Christians, I am looking in your direction) but it does not create a seperation between deists and theists as they function similarily with completely similar and different gods depending on said religion.

I wish people would stop using the arguement that we have free will because god knows our choice but it is up to us to make it. That is HUGELY contradictory as the fact would be that god would know a decision BEFORE created someone, thus god would be creating a life SPECIFICALLY for it to go to hell. No if's and's or but's... it is not a decision if the outcome has already happened, and if there is a god who is truly all knowing (then it has already happened to him, or he could not know it), then no, we have no free will.

I'm not sure of the definitions you ascribe to deist and theist.

As a Christian I see that God's gift of freedom is the most expensive thing He has done for us and is an expression of His love.

Not sure why that would imply that He is unconcerned about what we believe.

The nature of love depends on freedom to choose. What we choose to believe (=commit to) is paramount to His interest in mankind.

If you want to look into it further, discussion about Freewill can be found here http://www.5loaves2fishes.org.nz/phpBB2/viewtopic....

Does God have freewill?

All are predestined. Jesus knew before the beginning of time who would and wouldn't be saved.

He knows the hairs on our heads; so why wouldn't he know this?

God gives us free will so that we can choose to come to Him willingly. Or we can choose to reject Him.

The Bible says that we do not have free will. (see Eph. 1)

you are a very angry little person aren't you