Tax and National Insurance to the Government.?

No but now theres so many asylum seekers and benefit cheats we can only expect this to go up. Its absolutely shocking. OK a lot of people need benefits, especially single mums but so many people are idol and just dont want to work. Its a discrace. The government just wasted £400 000 on a logo for the olympics, a logo. Jesus christ. I have to give them a clap for that one.

You get to live in the UK with reasonably secure borders. You make a contribution to children's education (without yours you wouldn't have a job). You help pay for the National Health Service (who are still short of money). You have the services of the police, the fire brigade, the ambulance service and the coastguard. When you get to 65, you will get a state pension and you will also be supported if you can't work. You can get to your home along a made-up road that is lit at night. All this and more for just £75.61 per week - you've got a bargain - and you're free to whinge about it.

HMRC (formerly Inland Revenue) doesn't employ people to calculate PAYE and NIC for employers. People come into the enquiry centres for help with this, but over the years, they have increasingly encouraged/made to do this on-line, and staff are not supposed to do this for them. The emphasis is in educating them to do it themselves. When I started work 45 years ago, we would do the PAYE for employers coming to the counter, but when you think about it, how can they make the right deductions from employees when calculations are made perhaps every three or six months? If they want someone to do it for them they have to go to an accountant/agent, HMRC is no longer staffed to do this. In any case this sort of work would be a lower grade level than for someone with a degree. Although vacancies are filled nowadays on a "competence basis", this level of work would have been done in my day by someone with 5 GCE "O" levels. If you are doing a degree, you could look at graduate entry to be an Inspector of Taxes. You would have a year's training with HMRC, take exams, and then be qualified to conduct enquiries into peoples tax affairs. But you would have to cover the whole gamut of tax affairs, including business accounts, examination of Tax Returns, etc. You could ask for a transfer into a tax office dealing with PAYE (these are now specialist offices), but even so, you would still be involved in compliance work for Schedule D, some people have both types of income. There may be work in Employers' Compliance, where you deal with employers who refuse to comply with legislation. By necessity, the work is confrontational, and you would also have to deal with charging penalties. There is no Revenue job where you will only be dealing with PAYE/NIC calculations. A lot of calculating can be done on computer by staff anyway.

Very fair actually....how else do you think we get essential services......OK you may argue about the budgeting of such things as to whether we get value for money, but that is a different question. How do you think the National Health Service gets paid for, pensions, Emergency services, etc etc etc. You should research what other countries pay...OK some may pay less as in America, but have you ever looked at their health system...millions without insurance, afraid to go to a Doctor, the whole thing run by insurance companies...be thankful for what we have got....tax rates on income tax are as low as they have ever been....other sneaky taxes aside, we don't do too bad.

The problem i have is I'm paying in for a pension that by the time I'm 65 won't even exist. I'm 31 now but i know by the time I'm getting to pension age it will be a case if well you should have saved money in the bank. It is daylight robbery! i think peter Kay's phrase says it all, they should be wearing a balaclava and a stripey jumper!!

And how much do you think you should pay? As someone said, you can live in a house with access from a tarmac road, on a lit street, have access to any hospital at any time, etc., etc. Yes, there are people who live off the State. There always has been and always will be, but to pick on the lower income scale, such as asylum seekers is rather unfair. You have the *very* high income brackets who, imo, pay very little towards a country that provides them with everything they need.....including tax loopholes. I would rather live in a country which still accepts asylum seekers than a country that does not. People living amongst us are third/fourth/fifth generation children of immigrants.....my great-grandparents were Irish immigrants. So??? We have economic migrants too, and *that* should be where we are concentrating. People who make their fortunes here, and then sod off to another country with it, with no thanks, and no financial payment to this country. We have free schooling, and some people accept that schooling and then go abroad....why don't we moan about them?....when our NHS, etc. are crying out for educated people to work in them? Why are we a country of whingers??? At least we're only having to work and pay for what we get......we don't have to fight and die for it.

As we have learnt, apart from MP's who can claim ludicrous 'expenses' and some corporate groups that bank rolled new Labour in exchange for 10p tax rates, the rest of us are subject to the same system.

Brown has just abolished the 10p rate for the low paid ( Labour manifesto pledge 'no increase in taxation')

If you enjoy 'benefits in kind' supplied by your company to enable you to do your Job they count as part of your salary (unless you are an MP of course)

So we all suffer the same. This government raises £600,000,000 (6oo Billion approx) in taxes that it admits to and still we close schools, hospitals and sports centres. Sack nurses and Doctors, but we can afford to waste £400,000 on a silly logo and hundreds of salaried jobs in Quango's like N.I.C.E. to tell people they can't have things they need to stay alive.

Then we have to listen to them telling us they have lifted 600,000 children out of poverty (2 years ago they claimed it was 1,000,000)

Sadly, when you look at the alternatives it's a choice between three types of hornet, whatever you do you'll get stung.

The next time 1 of your family is getting life saving treatment in a NHS hospital, tell us how 'Daylight robbery' it is then.

If people want services, which i expect you do, they need paying for. Mick

no,i dont think its right.i cant understand the bone heads who dont put taxation as the number one priority.people want more money in their own pockets.dont vote for anyone who is not going to lower council tax by half and cut income tax.this government are corrupt evil thieves.and i will say it to their faces as well.

= £3931 a year.

You think that's robbery ?

One year (when I got a Bonus) I was axed more than £4,000 in one month ...