Pro life logic?

Dude, get real. The baby didn't knowingly kill the mother. If you have a abortion, you are knowingly killing the baby. Think about it a little more.

There are a number of 'real world' considerations to be acknowledged and then cast aside before you dance on the head of this pin. 1. A child (3rd trimester and outside the womb) usually under the age of 14, cannot be convicted of a crime due to the wide-spread belief that young kids (let alone newborns) can't form the mens rea, also called the 'bad intent', necessary to be found guilty of a crime, especially murder. 2. The mother assumed a known risk of death when she decided to take her pregnancy to full term and give birth, so assuming her doctor/midwife/whatever explained the possible risks to her well before the beginning of the 3rd trimester and did not commit malpractice during the birth causing her death, there isnt even any civil liability for the newborn death-monger. 3. I'm not certain about this, but if a state did decide to charge a woman with murder for getting an abortion, it could only be murder (ie, intentionally taking the life of another human being without a recognized mitigating factor) if the baby would have been viable (live without extraordinary measures) at the time of the abortion procedure.

I believe the viability of the fetus after the start of the 3rd trimester was the basis for the US Supreme Court's ruling.

There's a distinct difference: the mother is knowingly going to an abortion clinic for the very intention of killing the unborn child. While if a mother dies in child birth but the baby survives; 1. The child did not have the intention to kill it's provider, and 2. It is an accident, mainly due to the mother's inability to not medically be able to give birth. Major difference.

That's a good poser, but 'No'. An infant at birth has no ability to reason right or wrong. A mother does, but even then the mother has to live the rest of her life wondering; that in itself is punishment.

I don't believe in abortion; however, under certain circumstances I do; such as in the event of rape causing deep mental stress on the female victim, complications that pose a threat to the pregnant woman and that's about it.

Women that give birth time and time again and give their babies up for adoption or abandon them I believe should have their tubes tied, such as prostitutes or those that are uncaring mothers.

If a mother got tried for murder for having an abortion then abortion wouldn't be legal. If a mother dies while having a child, it isn't the child killing the mother, it is medical complications. Stupid question.

Murder means intention to kill.

Baby do not intent for the mother to die.

Mother specifically intended for the helpless baby to die=murder.

Women should start being responsible for their actions and start bearing the consequences of bad decisions.

Every one create their own life, not destiny, not luck.

This is not really something that is that easy to answer in the way you put it! but if you think about it... the child had nothing to do with being born! being created if anything it should be the man/person who got the woman pregnant!

Sure clusp, real good question, obviously with a lot of thought behind it. when they find the child guilty, should the child get the death sentence or life with no chance for parole?

Murder is defined as killing a person when you are aware that you are killing him/her. A baby cannot fall under this category since he is not even conscious yet.

A is a conscious decision?

B is no fault.

Why is it pro-baby-killers are the same people that called US veterans returning from Vietnam "Baby killers"

Hypocrisy much?