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How can people migrate to an English speaking country without having to speak English?

I'm currently in Australia and I work in Retail here and recently have had so many customers who can't speak english, don't want to pay the price of the item but say they can't speak english.

How is it that English speaking countries let migrants into the country without being able to speak our languge?

I am wanting to migrate to Japan but am finding it difficult as I can't speak fluent Japanese, i can speak conversationally and i'm still learning i'm finding this very frustrating.

It just doesn't seem fair... can anyone give me a reason why this is?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    The problem is this: while Australia requires that principal applicant for a migrant worker to pass IELTS, consequently, their derivative visas (i.e. family members) do not require language testing. In effect, the principal visa holder might be fluent in English but the derivative visa holders sometimes can hardly carry conversational English.

    The same flaw is with the US system of immigration. If you are a family-sponsored immigrant, you are not required to speak English, in fact during interviews in the embassies, a native speaker (of your language) might do the interview for you (someone has to verify). But ask any family sponsored immigrant and for sure, they were not required to take TOEFL or IELTS or any English test. They are not even required to take any English Class upon arrival to the country.

    Unlike in New Zealand, family members of the immigrant need to pass an English exam (IELTS for that matter), and if they don't they must pre-purchase before departure, a TESOL course, so that they are sure, these people will be trained to speak English. NZ has the most comprehensive and long-term plan system of migration, in my observation.

    The system is the problem.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    Australia may have signed a UN treaty obligating the country to take some refugees or asylum seekers. Maybe politicians are trying to win the votes of ethnic groups by letting them into the country. Maybe they are in your country illegally. You are being paid by the hour, right? So if your retail store is not busy, take time and explain that prices are never negotiated. That creates no financial loss for you. Or, if their grasp of our language is poor, just say "I'm sorry, I don't understand you" and then give no further response. Immigrants should be encouraged to speak their foreign languages to their own children, so those kids will be multilingual (a very valuable skill). But the government should make English fluency a requirement for any residency.

  • Acyla
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Some of these people aren't migrants they're tourists. Bargaining is their way (if that's what you mean) especially with some of the asians. Some of these people can be illegal or just older people who find it harder to learn other people's ways.

    You don't need to fully be able to speak Japanese to migrate there. You can get away with a couple of years with a good knowledge and teaching Japanese if you have a degree (they're getting a little more strict now). Just take your courage, pack your bags, get the visas and go.

    Some of the Japanese kids here don't speak fluent English. We have translating services, even medical centres that accomodate Japanese speaking people (and other races). You can get away with it, just know where to go for help, find a few people that speak the same language that you do and you'll be fine.

  • 1 decade ago

    Some immigrants are willing to assimilate and become successful. Some never do and they live off government hand outs or low wage jobs. Some of the reasons behind this are (1) They don't need to. They move to areas where there are others from the same culture as them. They speak their own language at home. Everyone in the neighborhood speaks their language too. If they go for services , they are accomodated. The welfare office, the Doctor's office, the bank - anywhere will have someone to translate for them. So who needs to learn English?

    (2)close minded arrogance. They think if it doesn't come from their culture it's no good. If others do something in a different way, they don't know what they're doing. "American laws are stupid.American Doctors' medical advice is stupid. Kids don't need car seats. I can hold them in my lap!"

    (3) They think if they speak another language or accept another culture they are somehow betraying their heritage and family.

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  • Stimpy
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    It's the same in America too. There's big controversy here about printing signs and government documents in Spanish. People say it just discourages Spanish speakers from feeling they need to learn English. Not to mention every customer service line you call the first thing you hear is an option to press whatever number for Spanish.

    Yet other countries complain when American tourists vacation in their countries and can't speak the native language.

    Yesterday I got behind a couple of Mexicans at the grocery store and they couldn't operate the ATM to pay for their stuff. They could speak English but I believe they could not read the prompts on the machine, because even when the cashier told them what buttons to push they couldn't do it.

  • Marc X
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    I've gone to Japan without knowing how to speak Japanese. Getting citizenship would probably be another matter, but that wasn't my purpose for being there. Still, I found it to my advantage to learn some of the local language.

    People who immigrate to English-speaking countries probably have the same situation. Their intention is not to become a citizen but perhaps to just work there for a time. To become a naturalized citizen of the U.S., proficiency in English IS a requirement (contrary to popular belief). For those with no intention of citizenship, it's still to their advantage to learn the local language, but not a legal requirement.

    Many claim not to speak English as an excuse for preferential treatment. Working in security, I've found that many Hispanics who claim inability to speak English suddenly find themselves well-versed in English when I explain to them about deportation in Spanish.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    We once considered poverty and wealth to be stagnant. We thought that if we offered niceties to poor people, they'd figure out a way to climb out of poverty.

    Reality

    The reality is that those same populations, though quite giddy about taking the freebies, used them to multiply their demise. They've grown from less than a billion to over 5 billion in under a hundred years.

    All the while, developed nations have seen their own populations stabilize or even shrink...including Japan. In fact, Japan has LED the world in this. Singapore is desperate for new people but young couples won't have kids.

    Back to Language...

    Have you noticed that these impoverished will NOT learn the language of the country to which they emigrate? Of course you have. Hence your question.

    And so, by that speech-community of a failed ideology, they magnify their presence among us.

    We who speak English must insist reciprocity of requirements for immigration into our countries.

    Some say we'd be insensitive to do so. More accurately, we're silly not to.

    ...

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It's pure lack of respect for the country they're migrating to and it's citizens.

    Today’s immigrants are not assimilating into our culture. Assimilation is not a process magically initiated upon. Rather, it only occurs when one or both of two conditions are met: The foreign elements must have a desire to assimilate or the host nation must place pressure on them to do so. Unfortunately, neither is the case today because both immigrants and native-born are far different than they once were.

    Source(s): Interesting Articles: http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/why-they-... http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArti... * I know you're referring to your country but the same thing is going on over here as well.
  • 1 decade ago

    how can people migrate FROM an English speaking country (America, Canada...etc) to a non-English speaking country without speaking the native language? i dont really wanna use migrate but nobody likes english speakers because anytime they travel mostly nobody is multilingual

  • 1 decade ago

    I will admit that as I work in retail, I sometimes go crazy when someone can not speak english comes up to me and gets mad at me when I can not understand what they want but I don't think that its fair to say that they shouldnt be allowed to be here. There are more important things to get upset about.

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